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February 15, 2011, 11:17:19 PM
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Re: Thunder Wool -AND- Concrete Shot Weapons! -UPDATED-
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2011, 11:17:19 PM »
Yea.. That's the hard part. (OHKO weapon would be annoying. This was the original plan but then we have to look at things like Roboenza, where small corridors could be camped easily)

An idea I was shot was to give the players in a radius of an explosion when the vortex is made an inventory item that can't be selected, that the vortex tells to move towards.

[Easier terms: The bomb explodes. Vortex is spawned. Players in some radius of it get an item. The vortex pulls any players with this item to it, at a decently strong rate; the shooter would also get this weapon, but doesn't get hurt from the bomb..]

February 16, 2011, 12:03:03 AM
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Re: Thunder Wool -AND- Concrete Shot Weapons! -UPDATED-
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2011, 12:03:03 AM »
Quote from: "Ashley"
This was the original plan but then we have to look at things like Roboenza, where small corridors could be camped easily)

I would just like to add something here: Don't design weapons for Roboenza unless it's specifically for that mode and nothing else. Design weapons suitable to deathmatch. Despite how many people prefer the former, the game and its weapons are designed for the latter, and a weapon that sucks in DM and is mediocre in Roboenza is worse than a weapon that's decent in DM and overpowered in Roboenza.

February 16, 2011, 01:16:00 AM
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Re: Thunder Wool -AND- Concrete Shot Weapons! -UPDATED-
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2011, 01:16:00 AM »
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Quote from: "Ashley"
This was the original plan but then we have to look at things like Roboenza, where small corridors could be camped easily)

I would just like to add something here: Don't design weapons for Roboenza unless it's specifically for that mode and nothing else. Design weapons suitable to deathmatch. Despite how many people prefer the former, the game and its weapons are designed for the latter, and a weapon that sucks in DM and is mediocre in Roboenza is worse than a weapon that's decent in DM and overpowered in Roboenza.

I'm not designing anything for Roboenza. It's being designed for general gameplay. Since this is a future expansion weapon, you have to acknowledge that it will be used in LMS, and therefore will be usable in Roboenza.

As of the moment, this is perfect in any game mode, with the minor bug of pulling players into it being unaffective and affective at random intervals.
If it didn't pull people and projectiles into it, it would be perfect and bug-free (aside from the fact that it doesn't create a vortex on linedefs, because the explosion is bigger than the bomb's first part).


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Edit:

An idea was passed onto me that the bomb's vortex should grow bigger every few frames.
As of now, the bomb itself is 10 radius and 10 height. The vortex is 40 radius and 40 height.

I would only do this if the bomb's radius and height were 40, that way it would explode near the player, and not explode so they couldn't escape it. This way it'd give them room to move away from it before it grew bigger.

(It would grow to a max of 100r 100h, and after that permanently died. If it couldn't expand in its area of explosion, it would just disappear)

Opinion on if this should be done?

February 16, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
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Re: Thunder Wool -AND- Concrete Shot Weapons! -UPDATED-
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2011, 07:43:46 AM »
How about you just don't.

February 17, 2011, 02:17:39 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2011, 02:17:39 AM »
Updated OP with a more organized pack... Hopefully this keeps the load of downloads down.

February 17, 2011, 02:38:21 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2011, 02:38:21 AM »
After testing these out with another player, I have a couple things to report.

-The Black Hole Bomb only pulls players in when they're on the same altitude of it.  Kind of strange, if you ask me.
-The Astro Crush suffers from a very slow fire rate for not too much damage.  I feel one or the other should be buffed a bit.
-Thunder Wool is kind of hard to hit with, maybe have it shoot in 8 directions instead of 4.
-Concrete Shot sometimes attaches to a wall awkwardly; e.g., once it zipped all the way to the top of the wall while near a barrel.  Also, its crumbling time seems to take too long to me.

February 17, 2011, 02:44:56 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2011, 02:44:56 AM »
Dude. YD was doing BHb. He pisted not to do it. If yoy touch rebound striker or hornet chaser... Dont.

Laser tridnet is done and flame sword and water shield are taken. Ask before you make it. I've totally lost some rspect for you here, ignoring YD when he posted How about you dont

February 17, 2011, 03:13:51 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2011, 03:13:51 AM »
YOU'RE MAKING WATER SHIELD! AWESOME! (I kinda wanted to make it, but I realized I suck at coding.)

Edit BTW Magnetman, Ashley already had an ENORMUS argument with YD, Ivory, Mr. X, and who knows who else about publishing her own weapons

February 17, 2011, 04:59:38 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2011, 04:59:38 AM »
I just have one problem... When i download the pk3 all i get is this information and not the real thing. I checked everywhere in the folders so what do i do about this?

February 17, 2011, 05:02:55 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2011, 05:02:55 AM »
Quote from: "Obelisk"
I just have one problem... When i download the pk3 all i get is this information and not the real thing. I checked everywhere in the folders so what do i do about this?

Instead of opening this stuff up in an extraction software like WINRAR, simply click "Open Containing Folder."  You'll get all of the data compressed into its original file.  Cut, paste in your MM8BDM folder.
???
PROFIT.

February 17, 2011, 07:49:53 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2011, 07:49:53 AM »
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Dude. YD was doing BHb. He pisted not to do it. If yoy touch rebound striker or hornet chaser... Dont.

Laser tridnet is done and flame sword and water shield are taken. Ask before you make it. I've totally lost some rspect for you here, ignoring YD when he posted How about you dont

This. You PM'd me, and I told you I had done it and not to do it. Then you posted here sayign you will do it even though I said you shouldn't and again I repeated what I said before. Then you went ahead and did it anyway? That's seriously not right. Take weapons that aren't being worked on (or in my case, finished) or else you're not going to be the most popular person around here, you're already not in many people's eyes. I'd appreciate it if you took down that link.

February 17, 2011, 11:53:29 AM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2011, 11:53:29 AM »
I think I need to clarify something. Anyone can make any weapon, skin, map or anything they want. Just because it's in one of the official games and I haven't done it yet, doesn't mean you can't. I only advised against doing MM7 stuff because I've already done all of the weapons. If people make a decent version of commando bomb or whatever, maybe I'll ask if I can use it in the official pack and give them credit. If I'm not too happy with how it works (and if I ever get around to that expansion), I'll probably make my own version.

So please don't say I CALLED THIS WEAPON and expect people to know about and respect it, especially if they're ready to work on the said weapon and you haven't even started yet. Make whatever you want! MM8BDM is free!

Just try not to break any copyrights though :mrgreen:

February 17, 2011, 01:35:52 PM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2011, 01:35:52 PM »
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Quote from: "Obelisk"
I just have one problem... When i download the pk3 all i get is this information and not the real thing. I checked everywhere in the folders so what do i do about this?

Instead of opening this stuff up in an extraction software like WINRAR, simply click "Open Containing Folder."  You'll get all of the data compressed into its original file.  Cut, paste in your MM8BDM folder.
???
PROFIT.
I still dont get what yor trying to say but ill find out soon enough......

February 17, 2011, 03:09:45 PM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2011, 03:09:45 PM »
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So please don't say I CALLED THIS WEAPON and expect people to know about and respect it, especially if they're ready to work on the said weapon and you haven't even started yet. Make whatever you want! MM8BDM is free!


Sorry Mike, but the thing is Ashley even PM'd me to ask if she could do it and I said no. Plus I've actually finished the weapon...

February 17, 2011, 03:43:39 PM
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Re: Ashley's Weapons [BHB, Thunder Wool, Astro Crush, C.Shot]
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2011, 03:43:39 PM »
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This. You PM'd me, and I told you I had done it and not to do it. Then you posted here sayign you will do it even though I said you shouldn't and again I repeated what I said before. Then you went ahead and did it anyway? That's seriously not right. Take weapons that aren't being worked on (or in my case, finished) or else you're not going to be the most popular person around here, you're already not in many people's eyes. I'd appreciate it if you took down that link.

Quote from: "CutmanMike"
So please don't say I CALLED THIS WEAPON and expect people to know about and respect it, especially if they're ready to work on the said weapon and you haven't even started yet.

Yellow Devil had already made a superior version of BHB and let everyone know that he did it... and Ashley went and made a worse version that doesn't even work right if the target isn't at the same altitude.

The issue isn't whether or not the weapons was called. The issue was that the weapons was already made, and made well. YD told Ashley not to make BHB after ASHLEY PM'D YD. So Ashley was asking permission in the first place, got denied, and then made a shuddy BHB ANYWAY.


EDIT: Hard ninja'd.