The "How do I make a weapon do that?" thread

[Balrog]

I already sort of knew the explosion thing, the problem being that it ONLY adds "I can hit my master". In short, if you play Team Deathmatch or something, a bomb can hit enemy players and the player who threw it, but not the throwing player's allies.


Didn't know it was that easy though, thanks.

Except then everyone killed with the damagers gets "%o died." instead of a proper obituary. There's no real support for killing your teammates without the server turning friendly fire on. This is intentional.

[Hilman170499]

About my last question, I got a bit of help from it. Thanks.

But scratch the rest off, I have another one;
How do you make temporary Runes(stuff like Rage, Haste and Spread)? Powerup duration doesn't work because Runes apparently do not inherit coding from Powerup.

[Russel]

Runes are permanent until you collect another one. Though a simple thing you can do is base a giver system off of the Junk Shield watcher and give the item "rune" to yourself to force the current one to deactivate.

[-Daiki-TheOni]

I think Spheres can do what he means.... "give turbosphere" gives you more speed for a limited time, for example.

[Stardust]

It is currently unimplemented in Zandronum.
As are many other pointer related functions.

just to name a few.

I saw it sooner, but... sigh. Can a script do "Set the target of the one who executed the script to its target's target ?"
With poorly visual help it means

--------- ACTOR SP (I spawn ACTOR 1)  --------
--------- ACTOR 1 (my target is ACTOR SP because it spawned me, and I spawn ACTOR 2)  ---------
--------- ACTOR 2 (my target is ACTOR 1 because it spawned me, but I use the miraculous script to set my target to ACTORSP) ---------

I'm really a broken arm at ACS, I can only barely edit some stuff that already exists, but not really create mines.

[tsukiyomaru0]

It is currently unimplemented in Zandronum.
As are many other pointer related functions.

just to name a few.

I saw it sooner, but... sigh. Can a script do "Set the target of the one who executed the script to its target's target ?"
With poorly visual help it means

--------- ACTOR SP (I spawn ACTOR 1)  --------
--------- ACTOR 1 (my target is ACTOR SP because it spawned me, and I spawn ACTOR 2)  ---------
--------- ACTOR 2 (my target is ACTOR 1 because it spawned me, but I use the miraculous script to set my target to ACTORSP) ---------

I'm really a broken arm at ACS, I can only barely edit some stuff that already exists, but not really create mines.

The target of a projectile is its master, and the target of a projectile spawned by a projectile is still its master

[Stardust]

Yes you're right, actually here's a more delicate and refined situation
If I use a CustomInventory that spawns a missile, the missile won't hurt me.
But, if instead of directly spawning the missile, the C.Inventory spawns a SPAWNER that'll spawn the missile, then this missile will hurt me. I tried it
One of the attacks of my class actually comes... from my custom inventory. From using an item, in other words. >:I
Maybe is the CustomInventory's pointer system different ?

EDIT : WAIT, I found the problem (editing right now...)

[tsukiyomaru0]

Yes you're right, actually here's a more delicate and refined situation
If I use a CustomInventory that spawns a missile, the missile won't hurt me.
But, if instead of directly spawning the missile, the C.Inventory spawns a SPAWNER that'll spawn the missile, then this missile will hurt me. I tried it
One of the attacks of my class actually comes... from my custom inventory. From using an item, in other words. >:I
Maybe is the CustomInventory's pointer system different ?

It's because the Spawner is not a projectile. You know, you can give a projectile the +NOINTERACTION to prevent them from being removed by collision before they can do their job.

[Stardust]

Uguu you posted riiiight after I found the solution, but anyway we thought the same ^^
Yes, I completly forgot how PROJECTILE can be useful with pointer inherit. With checkers, I usually set
+MISSILE
+NOCLIP
+NOINTERACTION
+DONTBLAST (so they don't go away into the infinite space :3)
To make sure NOTHING except a A_Jump thing could remove it.
Thanks, thanks a lot Tsuki

[tsukiyomaru0]

Uguu you posted riiiight after I found the solution, but anyway we thought the same ^^
Yes, I completly forgot how PROJECTILE can be useful with pointer inherit. With checkers, I usually set
+MISSILE
+NOCLIP
+NOINTERACTION
+DONTBLAST (so they don't go away into the infinite space :3)
To make sure NOTHING except a A_Jump thing could remove it.
Thanks, thanks a lot Tsuki

Oh, you are welcome. In fact, even I made this mistake in the past and just now I found the file with this flaw. Hilarity ensued

[Zard1084]

Quick question this may have been asked before.... i'm trying to figure out how to have two shots combine into a single new shot much like the x buster upgrade for X3? can anyone help with that?

[tsukiyomaru0]

Quick question this may have been asked before.... i'm trying to figure out how to have two shots combine into a single new shot much like the x buster upgrade for X3? can anyone help with that?

The only way I can think of for two projectiles to fuse like this would be through ACS checks, and even so could be too much trouble to be worth.

However, an alternate way (simpler, but won't produce exactly the desired effect) could be having the first projectile check if something is in the target's inventory during the second shot.
If confirmed the item, it then checks if the target is close enough and, if confirmed, spawns another shot and destroys itself.
If not close enough, it instead gives an item that causes the player to fire the second projectile.

[Zard1084]

Quick question this may have been asked before.... i'm trying to figure out how to have two shots combine into a single new shot much like the x buster upgrade for X3? can anyone help with that?

The only way I can think of for two projectiles to fuse like this would be through ACS checks, and even so could be too much trouble to be worth.

However, an alternate way (simpler, but won't produce exactly the desired effect) could be having the first projectile check if something is in the target's inventory during the second shot.
If confirmed the item, it then checks if the target is close enough and, if confirmed, spawns another shot and destroys itself.
If not close enough, it instead gives an item that causes the player to fire the second projectile.

hmm... well i can show you what i'm trying to do....

(click to show/hide)

basically i'm trying to make rolls buster in that vid
Edit: wait i have a idea! i can make one projectile shootable and if it gets hit by a special damage type the shot dies and spawns the newer more powerful projectile!

[tsukiyomaru0]

Edit: wait i have a idea! i can make one projectile shootable and if it gets hit by a special damage type the shot dies and spawns the newer more powerful projectile!

There's only one problem with this: It doesn't tell who shot the projectile.

[Zard1084]

Edit: wait i have a idea! i can make one projectile shootable and if it gets hit by a special damage type the shot dies and spawns the newer more powerful projectile!

There's only one problem with this: It doesn't tell who shot the projectile.

i know that tuski i was just gonna do that so i can just get it working and then revamp it to work with acs or some other thing later