What do you think about Rockman EXE serie?

[brotoad]

I like when people say " your arguments are not true"

OK BUT WHY?

i didn't say it wasn't true, i said it was flawed and i said exactly why too. just because something has more games does not make it instantly better.

[Cheminometry]

I have to say, they really did strike a golden formula with Battle Network (and dumbed it down for some silly reason in Star Force), I just got tired of it back when it was new because I just kept seeing Battle Network everywhere and the Classic and X series weren't getting any love. But in retrospect, it's a great series that manages to pull off real-time grid-based strategy combat, which is awesome.

[Emmanuelf06]

Ahah but pokemon is a casual game....anyways.....i respect more Yu Gi ho than Pokemon for a strategic card/evolution/others game.

I may not play Pokemon any more, but I sure as Hell know it's not casual.  It takes lots of time and dedication to train every member of your team and if you're going for them all, you've got hundreds of hours of gameplay ahead of you.  That doesn't say casual to me.

And the pokemon said always their name, it's just horrible. They need a life.

In the anime and games based directly off of the anime.  Otherwise, they're animals.  You expect them to talk?  However, in Pokemon, you tend to form a slight emotional bond to your team because you all go through a lot together.  Mega Man lacks that connection specifically because you aren't really playing as an avatar of yourself:  you're playing as Lan and Mega Man.

I like the design of horrible pokemons like the letters or mag(balls)mar. XD

How many Pokemon are there again?  Over 500?  Now, how many Net Navis are there?  Yeah, one of them is going to run out of creativity faster than the other one.  Wait?  What's that?  Most of the Net Navis are basically edited versions of their classic forms thus showing little creativity?  Oh, right.

I like when people say " your arguments are not true"

You never go in depth into any of your arguments.  You just say "Battle Network is better, Pokemon sucks".  I mean, you had these criticisms here but you don't go further.  Why is it casual?  Why?

Im sorry if EXE have more skills and games than Pokemon.

My very first time playing a Battle Network game was playing my brother's copy of the first game.  The first thing I did was play the ending (Magic Man, Life Virus).  I beat it on my first try with no real effort.  Keep in mind this was before he went on a quest to get the navi chips/all chips/anything beyond the path to beat the game.  I did the same with the 2nd game.  The only one I played all the way through was 5 and I really didn't have any problems beating it.  Beyond that, it gets tougher but Pokemon has plenty of tough moments.  Hell, it took me like 5 tries to beat the 3rd gym in Gold and Silver.  Nothing in Battle Network challenged me like that on the game's main path.  Pokemon, you have to think out every possibility of weaknesses and strengths and act accordingly.  Battle Network, you just have to get good chips and learn how to dodge.

Also, more games?  What does that have to do with quality?


Battle Network was decent but it never lived up to the other Mega Man series.  It ended after 6 main games.  Pokemon has had spin-offs, TV shows, many main games, and remakes for over a decade.  Why?  It's just more likable.  You really do get an emotional connection to your team, even if they aren't real and that's something special.  I don't like RPGs, but I still think Pokemon is a great series.

1/Pokemon is absolutly easy and casual, i finished 2 versions at 100% and a NGC version at 100%, after, i didnt play much, because, it's just a simple evolution game where i lost a lot of time on.

2/Whats the problem with Hikari Netto and Rockman? They are the heroes, in Pokemon, you dont have really a hero, it's just a bad trip, a children who leave his house (and studies?) to search some animals and put them in a ball. Pokemons are not very fun, in the anime, they are so boring. But its true a pika pika thing is just good for childrens.

3/The point of EXE serie is to redo the classic in a possible strategic game (you didnt understand that); a lot of EXE version are better than the original version for me, for the design, you have, SharkmanEXE (sharkman in PC version Lol), HeatmanEXE, ShademanEXE looks terrible, after, its a fantasy style game, there is netnavi who are a fantasy design (woodman or fireman). But they are cool and can speak with you, in the anime too.

4/Pokemon is casual because its a simple evolution game. Not better than Yu Gi Ho, i think, Pokemon is overrated. The pikachumania bored me. But to be strong easily in a easy game is so fun now...
And EXE games are really more complicate, the Two version of exe 4,5,6 and the 4.5 are really awesome because with the transformations, you can have a great combo folder.
Not the same thing with the pokemon, have 5 mewtwo or the good elements against your ennemy and its ok.

[Mr. X]

I did understand the point of Battle Network.  I'm saying you were criticizing Pokemon for having a FEW bad designs.  You have to understand that there's so many out there it was bound to happen.  I was also trying to say Pokemon have to actually use original designs which makes the odds of having a few bad ones higher.  By reusing robot masters (and having fewer Navis than Pokemon), you play it safe so you don't have as many bad apples in the bunch.  I don't care if it's a re-imagining of Classic Mega Man:  it's inherently a safer design choice.

Also, of course Pokemon has a childish design:  it's meant to appeal to children as well as long running fans.  I wouldn't exactly accuse Battle Network of being much more mature:  when it boils down to it, both basically become the power of friendship conquering evil.

You keep saying Pokemon is simple but don't fully explain why.  You just give a very brief description of it.  I can make everything seem stupid by doing that.  All you do in Mario is jump.  All you do in Mega Man is shoot.  All you do in Pokemon is catch animals.  All you do in Portal is solve puzzles.  The things that make these games stand out are the other parts of the game:  not just the basic concept.  Also, which involves more strategy:  raising Pokemon and balancing your team to cover as many strengths and eliminate as many weaknesses as possible all while making sure you have various Pokemon with status changing moves to better ensure the capture of more Pokemon or finding good battle chips, throwing them into a folder, and praying to God they come up when you fight.  Got a Giga chip?  Great!  Too bad all that pops up in your folder are 30 health chips at the very beginning of the fight.

YuGiOh is a card game.  It has no relevance in this topic.  Really, Pokemon doesn't either.  What the Hell is the point in continually bashing Pokemon in this topic?  It should be about Battle Network!

[Emmanuelf06]

I think, Nintendo (fanatic) maniac are really ridiculous with Pokemons, a lot of pokemon or nintendofans think Pokemon is better than EXE, but if we see with 4 years, what is the serie who was the most number of games? =)

that argument is really really flawed. a franchise having a large amount of games doesn't make it better

that and you're being just as fanatic towards battle network!

i do love battle network though. i only played the first one but i love the character redesigns in the others too!

It was him who reput the wars.  

(look the message before) XD

[Mr. X]

Yeah, but you started it in the very first post.

[Emmanuelf06]

Tsss, it was over, i changed the name of the topic anyways.

[Tails]

This rant is really too big.

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I'm sorry, I can't forcefully change your opinion, and I sure as hell don't want to start a flame war but...

1/Pokemon is absolutly easy and casual, i finished 2 versions at 100% and a NGC version at 100%, after, i didnt play much, because, it's just a simple evolution game where i lost a lot of time on.
Define easy. Pokemon has very different games, with very different setups with gyms and wild Pokemon. It's different each time; it forces you to pick a strategy with what you have. That's why I liked GSC and how it strayed from the Rock types being the first gym. A simple evolution game, are you kidding me? It takes HOURS raising the little people. And Battle Network, you just get Megaman. Maybe a cross here, or a soul here, but you get Megaman. Bah.

2/Whats the problem with Hikari Netto and Rockman? They are the heroes, in Pokemon, you dont have really a hero, it's just a bad trip, a children who leave his house (and studies?) to search some animals and put them in a ball. Pokemons are not very fun, in the anime, they are so boring. But its true a pika pika thing is just good for childrens.

The playable character isn't a hero? You're thinking a little too hard on a kids game .-. Explain why they're boring, I don't get the argument.

3/The point of EXE serie is to redo the classic in a possible strategic game (you didnt understand that); a lot of EXE version are better than the original version for me, for the design, you have, SharkmanEXE (sharkman in PC version Lol), HeatmanEXE, ShademanEXE looks terrible, after, its a fantasy style game, there is netnavi who are a fantasy design (woodman or fireman). But they are cool and can speak with you, in the anime too.

SO if they can't speak, they aren't cool? That must make Meowth the coolest thing ever. I dunno how it redos the classes, it throws random characters at you

4/Pokemon is casual because its a simple evolution game. Not better than Yu Gi Ho, i think, Pokemon is overrated. The pikachumania bored me. But to be strong easily in a easy game is so fun now...
And EXE games are really more complicate, the Two version of exe 4,5,6 and the 4.5 are really awesome because with the transformations, you can have a great combo folder.
Not the same thing with the pokemon, have 5 mewtwo or the good elements against your ennemy and its ok.
Again, explain whatever a simple evolution game is. You need to back up what you say, lad. WHY IS IT EASY. Just please explain. All in EXE, you kinda dodged and stuff. I find them both strategic and fun, but I oddly find Pokemon the more replayable and challenging one. Something about I guess. Good elements? You mean weaknesses? It's like saying MEGAMAN ISN'T STRAGIC OR FUN BECAUSE YOU CAN BRING A BOSS'S WEAKNESS TO TEH FIGHT ARRGH

[Emmanuelf06]

I read a little your "thing", Tails and one word

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Lol.

[Ivory]

Alright, I've had enough of this. I'm locking this thread. Stonefunk, if you are going to not like pokemon, make a valid reasoning for it. I'm fed up with your "reasons" and laughing at those of us who do love pokemon more then battle network.

If you don't like it, fine. Let others have their opinions and you have yours, okay? If I see any more .exe vs pokemon anywhere else, warnings will be issued.