[Game Modes] Roboenza mods + Other Creations (Upd. 9/8/13)

[BiscuitSlash]

I did  

[LlamaHombre]

I did too, but nobody else wanted to.

[theanjo]

And that's the problem with this community. Roboenza is fun, but no one ever really thinks to be more open to wads. X pack for example is a great map pack, but It has been left alone and no one will ever see it ever again. Team Assassination is also a good game mode, but no one thought about playing it. Seems to be that if it was advertised by Shagg, Pink, or played by CutmanMike, it is automatically the best thing ever. It's not. It got fame, but in reality, you are the one missing out. Don't judge a wad by other people, play it, then give your thoughts.

An unrelated topic:
Weapons are a different story. If you can access it without using a cheat server, or buckshot, then it does get played. Powered-up and 8-10 pack come with an LMS rotation, so it has a very good way to use those weapons.

[Shade Guy]

I think that Team Assassination could be expanded on a bit more.

Once, I thought of an idea similar to Team Assassination, but involving classes based on chess pieces.

Everyone starts as Pawns, who are the weak guys, like in Chess. Then, a number of people get designated roles.

You've got your King (only one of him), who would work a lot like the leader does in this mode; kill him and the team loses.
Then there's the Knights (two max), who are pretty agile and have high jumps and such.
After that is the Bishops and Rooks/Castles (still two max), haven't thought about how they would work.
And lastly is the Queen. This powerful class would be reserved for when a large number of people are playing.

The would be a specific formula to make sure how many Knights/Pawns/Etc. there are depending on the number of people playing.

Ideas like this could potentially increase interest in the game mode.

[SaviorSword]

And that's the problem with this community. Roboenza is fun, but no one ever really thinks to be more open to wads. X pack for example is a great map pack, but It has been left alone and no one will ever see it ever again. Team Assassination is also a good game mode, but no one thought about playing it. Seems to be that if it was advertised by Shagg, Pink, or played by CutmanMike, it is automatically the best thing ever. It's not. It got fame, but in reality, you are the one missing out. Don't judge a wad by other people, play it, then give your thoughts.

Explain to me how Bot Apoc became really popular when I was able to host it. It was never advertised by some big-name folk like Shagg, Rose, or CutmanMike for that matter... Although Rose DID play Bot Apoc a FEW games before (like around 5 rounds) and even as a leader too! That's besides the point though, she never did advertise Bot Apoc as far as I know.

[Hallan Parva]

I'm elaborating on that chess idea

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The Pawn

Pawns have low HP and very awkward attack methods, but they are incredibly fast and annoying to deal with. Usually you can KO a Pawn in one or two hits, but trying to actually hit them is where the problem lies. Their fast speed may be a burden, however, as they may strafe into a stray shot and frag themselves.


The King

Ah, it's good to be king. Teams only have one King at a time, and if the King is defeated then the game automatically ends (regardless of frags or points). Having an inexperienced player as King might put your team in the hot seat, but the King has lots of tools at his dispensal to prevent an easy frag.


The Queen

Women. You can't live with them, and you can't live without them. Obviously, the Queen is no exception. Queens, on their own, aren't very powerful. When paired with Knights or the King, however, the Queen's valuable support skills can prove to be deadly. Generally you only want one Queen for every 4 to 6 players.


The Knight

Knights combine the versatility of distance attacks with the power of melee attacks into one all-around balanced class. Their close-range swords deal massive damage and can push players back, and the Spear Shot alt-fire can pick off a retreating foe (or two).


The Rook

Think of the Rook as your friendly neighbourhood Spider Man Heavy Weapons Guy. Medium-low ammo, firing rate is slow as hell, can't move around for shit... but when a Rook hits, it hits HARD. Even if you're not destroyed after two or three hits, the Rook's attacks have nasty randomized side-effects like residual Fire damage or Stun Lock.

The Bishop

If the Knight is well-balanced like Mario, then think of the Bishop as "the Luigi". His distance Magic is stronger than the Knight's Spear Shot (and does elemental damage too!) but he lacks a real power move like the Knight's sword attack. He's a little faster than the Knight, and his alt-fire is a temporary shield that attracts enemy projectiles (like a magnet) and nullifies their effects (like Skull Barrier). Pair his magnet shield with the Rook for an invincible heavy hitter!

The idea is to emphasize player "pairs" where two classes boost each other.

[xColdxFusionx]

I'm elaborating on that chess idea

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The idea is to emphasize player "pairs" where two classes boost each other.

I think the idea with the "chess pieces" was to have special classes that were explicitly based on the actual chess pieces. Your ideas are neat and emphasize teamwork, yes, but certain ideas have no basis in chess and therefore kind of ruin the mod, in a sense.

Here are my ideas, building off the ones put out so far:

Pawn
This is the basic class. Average speed, average health, average... everything. Upon spawning, he gets double speed briefly. His attack is a rather awkward v-shot with a short range, but it fires fairly quickly and can do lots of damage, fast. In addition, if a pawn manages to kill another class, it becomes one of that class briefly.

King (1 player)
Very high health, but a hint slower than the Pawn (not much, but just enough so that it's noticeable). His attack is a slam move that blasts all nearby foes back (like classic Gravity Hold with a smaller area), meant mostly as a "keep-away" move to avoid getting overwhelmed by the enemy team rushing at him.

Knight (2 players)
As he moves, he drifts back and forth (ThrustThing in the See state that pushes him left and right?), but he can jump fairly high. His attack is a spear prod when you're on the ground, but in the air it allows him to slam down on opponents heads, dealing area damage based on the distance he falls. Jump over your opponents, then land on their heads for massive damage!

Rook (2 players)
He can't strafe. At all. However, he moves forward and backward incredibly fast. His attack is a ramming strike that only stops when he hits a wall or a player, dealing incredibly high damage. If you hit your king with this move, he'll be thrown behind you; use this to get him out of a tight scrape.

Bishop (2 players)
He can't move forward or backward. He can, however, strafe incredibly quickly. His attack is a "shield" similar to Star Crash/Junk Shield/Dark Shield. Slide into your opponents and hug them to death!

Queen (1 player)
The chess player's best friend. She moves quickly (not as fast as the Rook/Bishop, but a bit slower). Her attack is an 8-directional spread shot that deals massive damage, but fires fairly slowly.

[Hallan Parva]

That's cool and all but I can see the Queen owning everyone else. Also lol at castling SUCH A PRO MOVE.

My classes were more "balanced" and each class had a specific role meant for augmenting his or her team. By working collectively as a team much more can be accomplished.

You know what, never mind. I'm pitching a better idea to Messatsu, WE SHALL HAVE SMASH FORTRESS 2.

[xColdxFusionx]

That's cool and all but I can see the Queen owning everyone else. Also lol at castling SUCH A PRO MOVE.
Of course, the numbers and attacks would have to be fine-tuned to make sure no class has a super-massive bonus over the others, but the "tiers" of power were part of the point; Queens are overpowered in chess, which makes them prime targets for anything and everything, with knights, rooks, bishops, and pawns each being lower on the ladder. (Also, Pawns have the massive advantage of being able to transform into anyone; if a Pawn takes out your queen, you have to deal with the enemy team having two queens!)

Also, castling is the sexiest move ever.

...Now that I think of it, Queens should probably have a melee attack of some sort instead of a ranged shot, in order to go with the "everyone has a melee attack" theme I had going with the rest of the classes...

My classes were more "balanced" and each class had a specific role meant for augmenting his or her team. By working collectively as a team much more can be accomplished.
Your classes were very good, but they didn't have the spirit of the chess pieces they were supposed to represent. Especially with the Queen being a support. Queens are supposed to kill things like a boss!

You know what, never mind. I'm pitching a better idea to Messatsu, WE SHALL HAVE SMASH FORTRESS 2.
...What?

[BiscuitSlash]

Mess, do you think you'll update Team Assassination soon? If not then I could......try

[Messatsu]

I intend to update Team Assassination, but I'm probably going to completely rewrite it as of this point to support 4 teams and not have the round end when a team captain is killed.  I just need to figure out a few things first.

[Messatsu]

Updated Roboenza.  If no major bugs pop up, maybe I can turn my attention to Team Assassination finally. hmmm.

[Balrog]

Congrats on beating me to Bot Apocalypse Mess.

[Orange juice :l]

Bot Apocalypse - v1a - http://httphttp://wadhost.fathax.com/files/Botapocalypse-v1a.zip

Dat link.

[Hallan Parva]

I've got a quick question: what's the difference between your version and Balrog's version of Bot Apocalypse?