[Old thread] Chaos Generator Upgraded Ver. M

[Hallan Parva]

Fall damage would be cool bro

Testing it out, there doesn't seem to be a lot of places in MM8BDM where you can take falling damage because there are no steep drops. The maps where fall damage is ineffective are MM1CUT, MM1BOM, MM1DW1, MM1DW2, etc. Which means it would waste one of the three chaos effects. The only maps I can think of where fall damage would really work are MM1ELE, MM1ICE, MM5GRA, MM5STO, MM5DAR and MM7DW4. Also, I tested it out with sv_falldamage and I can confirm that it doesn't work in the Single Player Campaign (the proper Single Player mode, not Skirmish).

Guess what? I FIGURED IT OUT.

Try combining "sv_falldamage true" with "sv_oldfalldamage true". Every single stage except for Cutman will now damage you if you fall from a reasonable height, and it's possible to OHKO yourself by falling from insane heights (like in MM6MRX or MM7DW4).

You're welcome.

[Beed28]

Good. There probably won't be another update anytime soon, though, since I've got other stuff to be doing.

Anyway, survery time! What's your favourate Chaos Effect from each of the four catergories, and if possible, give a reason for each. For example:

Weapon Modifiers: Spread Shot
Player Modifiers: Reverse Controls
World Modifiers: Gameboy Monochrome
Hazard Modifiers: Random Fire Traps

I like shooting three projectiles at once, and I like having to deal with reversed controls. I also like exploring levels in monochrome, and I like timing the wonderfuly places fire traps.

(P.S. Evil Yashichi counts as a Hazard Modifier)

(P.P.S. Ultimate Gauntlet does not count!)

[Alucard]

Weapon Modifier: Random Buster. It's just hilarious getting a troll weapon like Wind Storm as the Base.

Player Modifiers: Wavebikes. It takes Zombies on jetskis to a whole new level.

World Modifier: Bouncy Terrain. BOING BOING BOING...It's so fun. And trollish in stages like Bubbleman where you could accidentally bump into spikes.

Hazard Modifier: Gutsman G. Only on pitless maps, though, since Gutsman G somehow always manages to spawn right in the pit. Also, add moar Gutsmen G.

[Hallan Parva]

Well, since I'm here... might as well.

Weapon: Random Buster. I love playing around with the different weapons, and when a weak weapon like Spark Shot or Needle Cannon is dealt, it adds a fun new challenge. Also, it's great when you get Sakugarne with it

Player: Party Death. It gives you free weapons! If it spat out confetti and played applause then it would be the best chaos effect known to man. Combine with Exploding Death for extra fun!

World: Fall Damage Ice Physics. It's just fun to play with! Pro tip: you can go at mach speeds by strafe-running with Scorch Wheel.

Hazard: Exploding Death. It's the ultimate Top Spin deterrent! Plus, you can frag from beyond the grave! Combine with Party Death for extra fun!

[Korby]

Just thought I'd say, SmashBro, you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to double the size of the pokemon image in paint, then use that as your avatar with exact dimensions.(128x96)

Incredibly off topic, I know. It just bothered me.

[Hallan Parva]

That's okay, I appreciate the help  

Actually, I remember playing that game in my childhood. Beat all the Gyms and everything, then got stuck on the Elite Four. Good times, good times.

Maybe if everyone gets Visual Boy Advance Link Edition we could host NetBattles card duels?

[BiscuitSlash]

Really sorry to have to bump this but there seems to be a problem with the HUB right now. Whenever me or someone else tries to enter a map through it, the game crashes but in a way that in order to get your PC working at full speed again you MUST restart it. I think it might be something to do with the new skulltag which doesn't like the coding or something. It's pretty annoying so I think you should check to see what's happening. (Sorry if this has been reported already, but I haven't seen it and I think it should be fixed a bit. (We can however still just change the map but that's not nearly as fun)

[Beed28]

Really sorry to have to bump this but there seems to be a problem with the HUB right now. Whenever me or someone else tries to enter a map through it, the game crashes but in a way that in order to get your PC working at full speed again you MUST restart it. I think it might be something to do with the new skulltag which doesn't like the coding or something. It's pretty annoying so I think you should check to see what's happening. (Sorry if this has been reported already, but I haven't seen it and I think it should be fixed a bit. (We can however still just change the map but that's not nearly as fun)

That's... odd. I've just tried it just now and it works fine for me, and I'm using v2c of MM8BDM with the updated Skulltag, as well as the Classes Mod.

Although, I was quickly trying just now in Skirmish mode with no bots. I'm not accually sure what the problem is. Do you have any other mods running? (e.g. Roboenza, etc)

[BiscuitSlash]

Before it was just the chaos mode without extra mods. It was online. Just now I was doing chaos possession without the hub until everyone was demanding it. Unlike the time before, map changing through rcon also crashed it! We were only using that and I pack, which just has maps and music.

[Beed28]

It's update time! I'm releasing this an hour before midnight here in the UK, but what the heck. Here's the changelog. Read it... if you dare. :twisted:

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Changes in Ver. E
-HUB: The EVIL YASHICHI has been moved to the main room in the hub with the rest of the effects. The ULTIMATE GAUNTLET is still hidden.
-HUB: Made an ATTEMPT to fix an odd crash some of you may have been having when exiting the hub to a stage. Beware that this fix is NOT gaurenteed.
-NEW BASE WEAPON: Fixed bug(?) where it causes major lag if it replaces the buster with nothing, which shouldn't be happening in the first place.
-JELLY WORLD: It's more bouncy now.
-KYOROWN SWARM: They have more clean spawning behaviour, and should also stop appearing in pits. Also fixed a bug if they spawned on a bouncy floor (e.g. MM7BUR, MM7SPR). Due to this, they can now be used with the BOUNCY TERRAIN effect.
-GUTSMAN G RAMPAGE: Vastly improved teleporting behaviour, now he no longer gets stuck in a single area in a multi-floor stage (e.g. MM5CRY, MM2QUIX, MM2DW2X). Gutsman G also teleports if he steps onto a black or sky floor (e.g. death pits).
-COLLISION DAMAGE: Fixed bug where killed players still caused collision damage in the spot where they died but didn't respawn yet. Also, the players are solid again, as it caused issues with stuff, notably Item-1.
-DEAD RISING: New for Halloween! A horde of zombies invades the stage, and although they die easily can can easily build up in swarms.

And here's two screenshots of the zombies:

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[-FiniteZero-]

Ooh, zombies!

...I can kinda see someone using this to create a team survival mode, where it's players VS zombies.

[Korby]

Surprise Surprise, someone did that!
...Last year!
His name was CutmanMike. He made this neat mode called "Roboenza." I think Messatsu took over after awhile.

[-FiniteZero-]

I know, but this zombie thing seems more fun to me, due to more zombies.

[Hallan Parva]

Fall damage would be cool bro

Testing it out, there doesn't seem to be a lot of places in MM8BDM where you can take falling damage because there are no steep drops. The maps where fall damage is ineffective are MM1CUT, MM1BOM, MM1DW1, MM1DW2, etc. Which means it would waste one of the three chaos effects. The only maps I can think of where fall damage would really work are MM1ELE, MM1ICE, MM5GRA, MM5STO, MM5DAR and MM7DW4. Also, I tested it out with sv_falldamage and I can confirm that it doesn't work in the Single Player Campaign (the proper Single Player mode, not Skirmish).

Guess what? I FIGURED IT OUT.

Try combining "sv_falldamage true" with "sv_oldfalldamage true". Every single stage except for Cutman will now damage you if you fall from a reasonable height, and it's possible to OHKO yourself by falling from insane heights (like in MM6MRX or MM7DW4).

You're welcome.

Good. There probably won't be another update anytime soon, though, since I've got other stuff to be doing.

It's update time! I'm releasing this an hour before midnight here in the UK, but what the heck. Here's the changelog. Read it... if you dare. :twisted:

-snip-

no falling damage

Yeah... I'm gonna leave this here.

[Beed28]

I'll try to add fall damage in the next update, then.

Anyway, I need some feedback for my new version. Does anyone like the new Jelly World? If anyone hates it, I can revert it back to the previous version, or even back to CutmanMike's boring version. Is Gutsman G better now? How about the zombies? Are they too weak? Are there too many?

Oh and most important of all: does the hub crash for anyone now? If so, I dunno how to fix it. :?