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April 08, 2010, 01:27:29 AM
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Re: Sugestion
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2010, 01:27:29 AM »
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Because it's based off a duke3d map, that would be impossible without killing the theme. I think it's ok, I kinda like setting up a base indoors and have ghouls try to storm it  :p

HAHAH! Yeah. No. Seriously, having ghouls lose hard to Santa+Ghost Buster camp spam is insane. You haven't been on the end business of the Frost Bite powerup lockdown this map causes. You can literally make it rain from behind certain walls using it. Combine that with traps of both classes and star launcher and you got yourself a deadlock. Rounds can go nearly twenty minutes if someone doesn't decide to say, "fuck it," and rush in.

I had to sabotage the camp by opening the back door on the human side just to avoid the issue (switching teams). Humans already have the vents, bathroom, and concession stand as bases. We don't need another one much more harder to access.

Speaking of, Ghost Buster's ammo consumption for the Creeper and Sjas powerups are pretty low. Would anyone object if it was like 6 pre shot?

April 11, 2010, 02:09:38 AM
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Re: Sugestion
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2010, 02:09:38 AM »
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April 11, 2010, 09:16:56 AM
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Re: Sugestion
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2010, 09:16:56 AM »
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6 per shot would make a useless gun, you would run out of ammo too fast to do anything.
That's 16 shots. You would only use that much if you were spamming.

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Ice rain needs to be a frozen spike launcher, 2 per second, 5 per shot, and explodes into smaller spikes which do low damage.
Ice rain is fine because you can't aim with it. If you can't aim with it then you're easy to kill unless you're actually running around.

April 11, 2010, 12:42:40 PM
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Re: Sugestion
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2010, 12:42:40 PM »
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6 per shot would make a useless gun, you would run out of ammo too fast to do anything. Ice rain needs to be a frozen spike launcher, 2 per second, 5 per shot, and explodes into smaller spikes which do low damage.

Engi is sexy by the way

16 shots is more than enough considering you have 33 shots now. The duration of a Sjas' powerup is long lasting and bounces off walls and floors stays enough that you could flood a room and kill ghouls with it. The interval between shots is longer than your regular Ghost buster photon cannon, so you have an extreme amount of time to continuously fire. With all the camping that Ghost Busters do, the accessibility to constantly fire becomes prevalent. Believe me, I went rounds without the need to recharge using the powerup. In fact, in certain situation you can fight extended durations without losing ammo. This is the meta most overlooked that I discovered when testing of his upgrade before it was released.

You use regular photon or traps for an extended time, and say a Jitter or Creeper comes for you. This is how it goes.

    Ghoul approaches
    You fire your photon and recharge or not
    Ghoul is dead
    You do NOT upgrade
    You fight some more
    Recharge when needed or run out of ammo
    If you do run out of ammo, then you upgrade for additional ammunition
    You fight some more, repeat cycle 2 to 7

We all know in a real fight this isn't as clear cut, but I've done it every time as a Ghost Buster and got prime results. The best weapons to ever hesitate upgrading is either choke blood cannon or bone cannon. I say hesitate on any and wait until you run out of ammo, but that decision is yours. If you follow what Cut intended for Ghost Busters, then you can have more than 200 photon with the hesitation of upgrading if you wait until you run out of ammo for your original photon cannon. Now coupled that with the speed of Creeper ball upgrade (and its strength) with Sjas' scream cannon's duration and you got yourself a very powerful weapon.

I am not going to say Ghost Buster OP, but you really don't need 33 shots. I also don't mind camping as long as it isn't in certain maps where humans can't be reached.

P. S.: The numbers used in these posts assume that we're using integers, and God I can tell I just woke up. Brb editting for coherency.