Rozark's Palace: Football is Here

[Gummywormz]

Just as a note for team based games: victory / defeat music for each team is different. So your custom music will only be heard when playing non team based games or as the Dr. Light team.

[Goomba98]

For reference, Dr. Wily's win music is WILYVIC, lose music is MM10RAIN, Cossack's win music is COSSVIC, Mr. X's win music is MRXVIC, and Cossack and Mr. X share the same lose music as with Light.

[Rozark]

I currently have no plans to do Wily/Mr.X/Cossack's victory/defeat tunes.

[Knux]

I've had this texture error happen before. All you have to do is use the lower/upper unpegged properties for the line and reset the offsets to 0.



By the way, I think Caustic Caverns is the best map in the pack. Although you should probably make that toxic do damage while under it, seeing as it was used as a OHKO floor in Defiled. Also, the water in Hydrocity should be translucent to allow players to see what's going on down there without having to go in.

[Rozark]

I've had this texture error happen before. All you have to do is use the lower/upper unpegged properties for the line and reset the offsets to 0.



By the way, I think Caustic Caverns is the best map in the pack. Although you should probably make that toxic do damage while under it, seeing as it was used as a OHKO floor in Defiled. Also, the water in Hydrocity should be translucent to allow players to see what's going on down there without having to go in.

Everyone has varying opinions, and I personally enjoy either Crisis Valley or Her Majesty's Mill.
Oh hey wily portrait software errors. //will fix
No the toxic water is fine. //not touching it
Also all water that you can go in is translucent, Knux get out of software :I //will double check water

[Knux]

No the toxic water is fine. //not touching it

You should then change it to normal water colors. It's not fine for reasons already stated.

Knux get out of software

That's incredibly selfish. No one has to cope with software errors just because you can run GL all of the time. There's no reason why you can't make water translucent for both software and GL, which has been done easily to death by now.

Speaking of which, it may be this laptop, but a few of the maps like the train map and Springfield give me FPS lag.

[Rozark]

No the toxic water is fine. //not touching it

You should then change it to normal water colors. It's not fine for reasons already stated.

Knux get out of software

That's incredibly selfish. No one has to cope with software errors just because you can run GL all of the time. There's no reason why you can't make water translucent for both software and GL, which has been done easily to death by now.

Speaking of which, it may be this laptop, but a few of the maps like the train map and Springfield give me FPS lag.

No, I'm not forcing you to get out of software, I'm saying that this pack is more enjoyable in OpenGL.
Roz09 (Train) has a software fps issue yes/being fixed. Roz20 (Springfield) however, this is the first report that's came in. Will keep an eye on that.

[Gummywormz]

Who wants a giant image dump? But first...

* Why is there water in almost every map? Seriously there's just so much.
* There are also a lot of teleporters. Most of the time they are completely unnecessary and just break the flow a lot.
* There also feels like a lot of "copy paste" in this pack. Preemptive Strike is a prime example even though the ships are not exactly 100% alike. It just feels like one ship could have been expanded instead of making two of them. In Crisis Valley this is also apparent with the water.
* The lights in that one map go off far too frequently and take too long to come back on.
* In ROZ20, the springs don't play the bounce sound. Also, the time stopper is piss-easy to get. It doesn't help there's item 1 and wire everywhere so it's basically idiot-proof.

And here is the dump, mostly texture stuff but some weapons and other stuff too:

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To be brutally honest, it looks like zebra barf.

I never knew trash burned in 1 dimension.

Here's the first of a long long dump of issues where the textures don't match at all.

Another.

Yet another. Also items look weird when not affected by the darkness / color change. Probably can't do much about it though.

Yep.

And to break it up, have a cactus that grows in grass for some reason!

I died when I saw this.

It didn't come out well, but this waterfall is transparent. It really looks ugly and should be a normal texture.

Here's the first of a series of "coldfusion's waterfalls". These are basically transparent squares of water and they look really really bad imo. It also doesn't help that the floor is black.

What the hell is going on with the props here?

This is just ugly.

This car has literally nothing on it. The other cars are kind of bland too.

I guess this is supposed to be tile, but it just looks wrong.

Oh boy, uneven steps! This is especially bad because you can go up the middle a lot faster, to the point where attempting to go up those side stairs is a pointless waste of time that will probably only get you killed.

>Flash stopper near a pit.
SMAAAAAAAAAAAASH.

What the hell is this?

Oh look it's Holiday Deathmatch all over again.

This looks ugly too. I'd much prefer having a full sky.

And more coldfusion waterfalls to end it off.

A lot of the ideas in this pack are actually quite genius, but the layouts (especially for maps like Temporal Tower and that fish tank map) are a huge let down. I haven't played online with this yet so I won't really comment on issues in too much detail yet. Overall it's a decent start, but not exactly the amazing pack of the century everyone was hyping it up to be.

[Rozark]

Probably going to come off as a rant but the above post is heavily opinionated so weeeeeeeee

I was prepared to write a huge wall "contesting" each image, and to put it simply "Cool".
Cool that you don't understand the texture links/makes sense above water and how yes, they look weird below water and I don't care, not to mention that using software for item lights underwater is indeed weird.
Nice to know that people just can't have cactuses growing in a parking lot; that the imagination of a penguin power plant cannot exist.
And that's really informative that you disagree with a nonblack ceiling, something I dared to try after I grew tired of the black ceiling.
Finally, no, nothing was copied, I drew everything by hand.

The thing is Gummy, I understand that you don't agree with my texture choice, decorate choice, or perhaps even my placements. However, it's preference. Some people like it, and some don't. Thank you for your concerns; they don't particularly interest me.

I WILL look into decreasing the time of the darkness in Proton Powerhouse, at least.

[Beed28]

I tried this with Chaos Generator.

My Jelly World's lost its bounciness when I tried it on your maps (I tried it on Springfield first, then Temporal Tower). I mean, the level still moves up and down, but it doesn't bump anyone nor items into the air anymore, which was the main reason I love Jelly World. It's as if they all have the +MOVEWITHSECTOR flags added to them.

[Rozark]

I tried this with Chaos Generator.

My Jelly World's lost its bounciness when I tried it on your maps (I tried it on Springfield first, then Temporal Tower). I mean, the level still moves up and down, but it doesn't bump anyone nor items into the air anymore, which was the main reason I love Jelly World. It's as if they all have the +MOVEWITHSECTOR flags added to them.

Have you tried Jelly World with anything udmf related? Just wondering, they're all in udmf format. I haven't even heard of +MOVEWITHSECTOR until now :I

[Beed28]

I tried this with Chaos Generator.

My Jelly World's lost its bounciness when I tried it on your maps (I tried it on Springfield first, then Temporal Tower). I mean, the level still moves up and down, but it doesn't bump anyone nor items into the air anymore, which was the main reason I love Jelly World. It's as if they all have the +MOVEWITHSECTOR flags added to them.

Have you tried Jelly World with anything udmf related? Just wondering, they're all in udmf format. I haven't even heard of +MOVEWITHSECTOR until now :I

I just painstakingly converted Hard Man's map into UDMF to see if this is the cause, and sure enough, it is.

This is... disturbing. How would I solve this?

EDIT: Especially since I just remembered the core maps are moving to UDMF in MM8BDM-v4.

[Rozark]

Beed..

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You're asking the wrong person. Of course, that probably wasn't directed at me, but still, the wrong person.

[Hallan Parva]

>Flash stopper near a pit.
SMAAAAAAAAAAAASH.

huehuehuehue

Incidentally that was on purpose, though not exactly the way you think. I thought Flash Stopper would be good for the upper level due to the walkways over lava and the severe lack of rails, but I didn't want to leave it out in the open for anyone to just run up and grab. I shoved it behind the lower level's pillar because that area was sort of a dead-end and you could get your face ripped off if someone else is paying attention, though I forgot that said dead-end had a small pit around the pillar. A better idea would've been to put something like Wind Storm there to pole-vault people into pits instead, but I digress. It was silly and probably should get changed to something else.

[Knux]

I just noticed that there's a dining table on top of a wagon in Roz09. Also, I want to know what the purpose of Skull Barrier in Roz01 is aside from potentially falling into a pit while trying to wire back and forth.