[Map Pack] FMP2 (v1b)

[Rozark]

This space had purpose but I deleted it.

[Nostalgia]

Can't believe people enjoy my music, that makes me happy ^w^

I'm certain that most of the people that commented here were using sarcasm, although I do happen to enjoy these songs simply because of their... uh, interesting composition.
Perhaps you should take this test to see if you could improve.

[Rozark]

i scored a 25, and i didnt know half of the tunes.

[MusashiAA]

You correctly identified 26 tunes (out of 26) on the Distorted Tunes Test. Congratulations! You have a fine sense of pitch.

[Fyone]

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I hope you like reading.. :L

ALL:
Pro-It's.. a map collection. YAY MAPS! (sorry i really couldnt find a positive for overall >.<)
Con- maps are either too cramped or WAAAYYY to huge.
Con- Weapon energy and health capsules.. if you're sticking with the sizes of those you need to readjust them. One capsule here and there in a large map simply isn't enough.
Pon: It's a pro and a con. Nice music, but for some reason it annoys me after awhile. Especially in the 5th map. literally seems like a 10 second loop.  thats probably just me though.

Map1:
This map. One word. Gigantic. There's too much open space. Fill it with something. Add more capsules when you do. On the brightman side, hehe megaman jokes a variety of textures. That's good.

Map2:
In the style of Billy Mays-See, hallways are pretty cool. So are square rooms. Put them together.. WTF! No, but seriously. This map is also too huge, with little capsules for health/ammo. A long square hallway with little to no decor. Then, we get a variation of a square room, linking to 4 equally square rooms. Mix it up abit. Try not to go perfectly square either.

Map3:
OMG A TREEHOUSE!! I love this idea. The map isn't as huge as the others, but i cant help but feel that it still seems huge. Still needs better/more capsule placement and filler space. Also, the ballade cracker and silver tomahawk locations seem too easy to reach. At LEAST move the ballade cracker to someplace else. If i may suggest, put an rj somewhere and put the ballade cracker on top of the treehouse XD

Map4:
Back to the too huge thing. the platforms on the sides with all of the ladders remind me of hyper lode runner. Yes, it does XD. Too plain of textures on the inside. Spice it up abit. Shrink it/put filler space? Also with the usual problem of not enough capsules.

Map5:
Cossack's testing facility. Interesting idea. but, the long and annoying way just for item 1? I see how it's an idea to hide it there then put it, but the platforms to get the etank/skull barrier seem more rush coil worthy than item 1. decent sized rooms at a few locations, but it needs just abit of filler space. I find the hallways with the springs cramped at the end annoying, as with the loop that seems only 10 seconds or so long.


AND THAT MY FRIEND, is my feedback. These are my opinions, and you can take them into consideration if you do so choose.

HAVE A NICE DAY!

Do not worry, from constant requests, I will be surely reducing size.

[LlamaHombre]

You correctly identified 25 tunes (out of 26) on the Distorted Tunes Test. Congratulations! You have a fine sense of pitch.

I do feel as if the music in this pack leaves something to be desired for, though.

[Mr. X]

Here's my thought on the maps.  I'm writing this as I play them.

FMP01
-As others have said, the map is absolutely gigantic.  However, what is an even bigger problem is that it's also extremely open.  In the largest areas, there's little to no cover and barely any elevation changes.
-The map has absolutely no coherent theme.  One minute you're in a cliff, the next a forest, and the next a castle.
-The only thing more confused than the map theme is the music which feels like a bunch of random songs smashed together to the beat of a 500 pound horse stomping along.
-The map is linear.  There's only one way from the cliffs to the jungle which is Rush Coil.  Thus, the map is essentially a giant one way highway which is extremely poor for any game mode.

FMP02
-There's some crazy texture glitches at the top of the outside of the castle.
-There's so many long hallways without cover.  Basically, someone can just stand at one end and hold firing to get kills with relative ease.
-The map is again extremely linear although at least there's ways to go backwards and forwards along the main path and not one direction only.
-The music sounds like something jolly that goes horribly out of tune.
-The teleporters are unnecessary.

FMP03
-The tree is one of the most campiest spots I've seen in a map.  There's only one fairly slow way up that's easy to shoot down in OpenGL.
-The inside of the base and treehouse are hard on the eyes due to the ugly texture spam.
-The actual layout of the base actually isn't too bad.  Sure it's not that amazing but at least it's better than wide open and complete lacking of cover.
-The music is probably the best in the pack but still feels like it's lacking something.

FMP04
-The ladders...oh the ladders...It takes about 33 seconds to get from the bottom to the top.  It should almost never take 33 seconds to get anywhere in any deathmatch map ever.  Even in Mr. X's Fortress, I could get from one end of the entire map to the other in under 20 seconds.
-Honestly, there is nothing decent about this map at all.  It takes all of the problems of the other maps and adds more (random buildings, giant ladder climb, awful music).

FMP05
-Look, I believe most people involved in mapping know I hate Fighter X music.  However, that's more of a disagreement on taste:  They're good at what they do, but it's just not my cup of tea at all.  I say "I want to reach for my music binds" when hearing their songs but I never actually do.  However, I can honestly say this is the first time I actually have almost immediately reached for my music binds in a level.  The music is one small step above Crazy Bus.  I tried to be nice but I really can't say this in a nice way:  this music honestly makes me think you are tone deaf.  I do not mean that as an insult:  I truly think you might be and taking the test posted earlier is the best way to find out.
-The map is a giant snaking line.  It really is linear.  It's unsuitable for any kind of battle.
-The texture choices are rather hard on the eyes in the hallways.


Closing Remarks
Sit down and take a good long look at other people's maps.  Play MM8BDM lots online.  What annoys you about certain maps?  What do you like about certain maps?  Honestly, these are very very poor maps and one way to get better is to see what other people did right.  This should help you see what you did wrong and improve on it.

Oh, and I scored 26 out of 26.   Woo!

[Rozark]

fyone, take a look at my first map. it could help maybe. :L (ill be adding more shortly too, once this third one finishes up then ill add 2 more to the pack)

[Fyone]

You correctly identified 26 tunes (out of 26) on the Distorted Tunes Test. Congratulations! You have a fine sense of pitch.

That test was the easiest thing I've ever seen.

Anyways, I need to know exactly in more detail what is wrong with FMP05 - Dr. Cossack's Test Factory so that I can fix it. I've already finished fixing the rest of the maps so I need to know what's wrong with that map in particular.

[Mr. X]

It's a line.  It's completely linear.  Linear levels don't work in any deathmatch game.  Honestly, I'd scrap it and start over.

[Nostalgia]

You correctly identified 26 tunes (out of 26) on the Distorted Tunes Test. Congratulations! You have a fine sense of pitch.

That test was the easiest thing I've ever seen.

Anyways, I need to know exactly in more detail what is wrong with FMP05 - Dr. Cossack's Test Factory so that I can fix it. I've already finished fixing the rest of the maps so I need to know what's wrong with that map in particular.

I should've made myself more clear that I was directing this test towards Lad due to the fact that he made the music.
Wait a minute: if you scored a 26, then why don't you compose the music instead?

[Fyone]

I could try making a song I guess I'll post it once I'm done.

[Fyone]

It's a line.  It's completely linear.  Linear levels don't work in any deathmatch game.  Honestly, I'd scrap it and start over.

I've decided not to scratch it -_-, but to fix it. I will most likely add more ways to get around and once I finish that, I will write up the changelog. I can't believe no one found any of the hidden spots in maps >_>

[Rozark]

try more zig-zaggy/random patterns. especially for walls like rocks/cliffs. its hard to do this on an inside based map, but make different area floors and shaped hallways, so it isnt always the same plain rectangles.

[Fyone]

I added the changelog, although I won't release 'till Lad's done fixing the music.