"Show some Love for CTF" {Voting Closed: Results Are In!}

[Jc494]

Ah yes, someone mentioned to me that there were quite a few texture issues in Sky Castle and some other maps. I thought she was just being picky but then I turned software mode on, and yeah there's quite a few! Always best to test your maps in both renderers (it's okay, I forget too).

I knew about all my bad offsets but I just left them there... on purpose.  

[fortegigasgospel]

Well I'll say my general opinions

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CTFC01 - Tunnel Network: Solid map, a little lack luster though. Feels like a bigger better version of All Out Assault (AKA MMCTF10). The side paths are a sight to behold though.

CTFC02 - Sacred Shrines: Rain Flush needs to be moved, plus a spawn point is on it.  Otherwise its a great map, nice verity of weapons. Good layout.

CTFC03 - Lost Temple: I wanna start, I'm gonna be looking through the Starcraft maps to see what one you used for this, it feels starcrafty.  The "minerals" and "vespin gysers" are nice decor, but your bunkers can't be used effectively.  There are areas off to the side where a Bass Buster and Item 1 can be seen that are rather impossible to get to.  The jumping around isn't good for people who are lagging. So many people died during testing, then again they didn't learn their lessons.

CTFC04 - (Redacted)'s CTF Entry: This map is ok but if you keep the roader gimmick with 2 on each side have them alternate so that they don't go on both paths at once. So their will always be Roaders in only 1 path on each side maybe.  The paths seem to not be perfectly mirrored like one side of the middle has Quick Boomerang and Rush Coil where the other has Yamato Spear and Item 1. Also one team has Thunder Bolt opposite of Search Snake, but the other paths don't have either weapon.  Lastly, and these are my biggest complaints, the Flag is hard as hell to get, its too high for a single jump, you must land on one of the lower parts to get to it, and to make it worse, all the spawn points for both teams are RIGHT next to the flags. Meaning you run in killing someone they will be right where you need to go as apposed to having to run a little bit to intercept you, so killing people in this map isn't beneficial to the flag runners until they have the flag.

CTFC05 - Sky Castle: My favorite in the group by far. There are texture offsets, but those were the least of my concerns and were little distractions from how fun this map was.  My biggest beef is the pits in the small rooms in front of the flag being the only ones without the fans, its a bit misleading when all the other pits in the map are used for getting higher but not those ones.

CTFC06 - Crystal Crater: Solid map again.  Doesn't really stand out much to me. Star Crash is really powerful in this map, just ask Gummy.  Blue base right behind the flag when looking at it turn left and there is a red texture, which should be an easy fix. Eddie is in this map but he is so tricky to get it isn't even that plausible to bother trying for a slim chance of getting a useful weapon.  Thats really all I can say about this one sadly.

And luckly we all know maps are all up for change (and likely will be) before being added to the actual game so problems that are found can easily be fixed.

[Jakeinator]

Hey Ivory do i still get to test in the first round or am i considered a public tester now?

[Ivory]

You dropped out, so yes, you are not longer a contestant. Only the Judges, Contestants and Mike will be permitted for the first round.

[Ivory]

Public Testing Open
http://www.mediafire.com/?d32g2h2ya1b1v7v

[PressStart]

Those maps are far out. Only problems I had was the one that had teams spawning on the wrong side, and the one with all the crazy water rising/lowering being too much for the server to handle with all those people. Thanks mappers!

[CutmanMike]

So many of these maps have multiple floors, we desperately need to figure out a way to make it easier to track where the enemy and ally team flags are. Something to look into for the future perhaps.

[OrangeMario]

So many of these maps have multiple floors, we desperately need to figure out a way to make it easier to track where the enemy and ally team flags are. Something to look into for the future perhaps.

Doesn't this map, somewhat, cover that?

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Multiple floors, you can track whos below/above you (understanding its not all the time), its even kinda like a way to make the main room, seem less crowded with projetiles flying across your head.

[Duora Super Gyro]

I have to say. Two of the stages in this part of the compo seem seriosly awsome.

[Beed28]

Time for my comments on each stage, except for weapon balance since I'm apparently not that great at that:

Spaced Out: I acually like this stage. The moving space outside was a nice touch.
I'm a fish~: No Yashichi. I get FPS drops when I add bots, but it's not as intense as Tunnel Network, Lost Temple, Crystal Crater, or Deserted City as mentioned below. Also, what's with the hilariously random name?
Double Castle: I don't know what to say about this map, except the Dr. Light side has some red textures, which might confuse some.
Triple Trouble: No Yashichi. There's some weird texture screw up on the lower moving walls in the center of the map. Also, why are we recycling MM7 Wily 3 music?
Clash in the City: Why does this map have the exact same music as Tunnel Network? Also, we only need one Yashichi, not two.
Deserted City: No Yashichi. When I add bots, my FPS dies and makes this map unplayable.

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IIRC, there were weapons dropping into pits in Spaced Out. I think it had something to do with the moving platforms...

[fortegigasgospel]

Triple Trouble: No Yashichi. There's some weird texture screw up on the lower moving walls in the center of the map. Also, why are we recycling MM7 Wily 3 music?

That texture screwup may not be fixable after looking at it, a lower unpegging may mess it up worse due to the sand.  As for the music possible for file size? Music takes up space.  And not everyone is good at going out and finding music to add to their maps or able to loop unlooped songs they want to use. Besides didn't they say the music wasn't to be judged?

Clash in the City: Why does this map have the exact same music as Tunnel Network? Also, we only need one Yashichi, not two.

Just means both people found the song and thought it fit their maps.  If both get in I'm sure the team will change one's song.

Onto my comment:
CTFC07 - Spaced Out: The skybox effect was neat and the music is nice and relaxing, but honestly, this one doesn't really stand out to me all that much.

CTFC08 - I'm a fish: I really like this one, my only problem is the having to climb ladders to get to the flag.

CTFC09 - Double Castle: I'm on the fence with this one, it doesn't really stand out that much to me.

CTFC10 - Triple Trouble: I see what you guys did, Double followed by Triple.  Onto the map. Its ok, the gimmick is interesting. Not much else to say.

CTFC11 - Clash in the City: I actually do enjoy this one, just never take the water path if you have bots on, they will get stuck in the Hyper Bomb room and just bomb the hell out of the middle room making it near impossible to take the lower path.

CTFC12 - Deserted City: I don't really know what to say about this one other then the impossible to play with bots.

[Max]

Woo I didn't suck!

Also the thing with the items on the floor, they're not actually on the floor the graphics are just being weird... I'll get BB to I'll try to fix it!

Also be nice to bb he stopped this map from sucking

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[Korby]

Also, what's with the hilariously random name?

I forgot to name it, so Ivory did for me based on an inside joke.

One of the main non-texture complaints I get about my map seem to be the ladders to the flag. I'm pretty darn sure I'm not allowed to edit my map, especially seeing as we've already tested it, but if I lowered the height of the flag and made the ladders tractor beams instead, would that help?

[Hallan Parva]

YOU made "I'm a Fish?"

I don't mean for this to come out wrong, but I was actually somewhat disappointed. :?

Also, I actually liked the ladders. One of the problems of CTF is that nobody wants to be the Team Mom and babysit the flag, and with the simplistic design of bases these days people can just run in and WHOOP -- now the flag's gone and FUCKIN' EVERYBODY is trying to chase after the thing.

With the ladders being there, it helps the few defenders do their job better. Knight Crush is a great tool to use when defending, but Super Arm can also get the job done. I'd prefer if you put Ring Boomerang or Dust Crusher somewhere just to make my life easier, but I'm not complaining.

Now, even though I thought the ladders in the base were a good idea, I didn't like the shape of the upper level. It's practical, yes, but it also looks hideous what with the Attack Of The 20-Foot Ladders sticking up in the middle of the room with nothing else in it to make it look prettier. I also found the middle section lacking. While I thought the lower path was very well made, the upper glass-floor part was boring and the outer part with Super Arm felt "tacked on", what with your floating perfect squares with no missing edges or funky elevation levels.

Honestly, if the side areas were changed up / removed and the bases were made to look less bad, this would be one of my favorites (if not THE favorite) of the map simply due to playability. Personally, I don't care if a map doesn't have catchy music or a gimmick around every corner as long as IT PLAYS A GOOD GAME OF CTF.

That's my two cents, anyway.