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July 13, 2011, 02:53:39 AM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2011, 02:53:39 AM »
I think he means "Die, Wily!"

July 13, 2011, 03:01:05 AM
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That's not going maverick.
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2011, 03:01:05 AM »
Even if Mega Man were to go through with killing Dr. Wily, he wouldn't be a maverick, due to the label only describing Reploids and Mechaniloids; both of which don't apply to Mega Man.

July 13, 2011, 08:22:49 AM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2011, 08:22:49 AM »
A maverik is any robot that goes againsed the law of robotics, which is that a robot cannot harm a human, also zero was the 1st maverik and he happens to be a robot also, which leads me to a good question, if maverik zero was defeated by sigma, then how long has homacidal zero been running around?

July 13, 2011, 08:45:36 AM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2011, 08:45:36 AM »
I'd say Vile.

However, he was WAY cooler in MMX and X3.

In X8, he was around a lot.
But he was not really very badass.

He was relatively easy, and just served as an incompetent lackey.
I mean, in X3, he says that he'll haunt X until the day he dies.
Then, he just appears again as a stooge for the man.
It was just a sad anti-climax.

Make HIM the final bad guy for once, CAPCOM!

July 13, 2011, 10:57:57 AM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2011, 10:57:57 AM »
Honestly I barely remember any of them even though I own all but X7.  I mean Bamboo Pandemonium is an awesome name that stuck with me, but I don't really remember anything about fighting him.  That's a problem with the X series in general I feel, they start to get too mixed up between animal traits and their powers so that none of it really stands out as anything iconic.  Hell, even if one or two come to mind I can't remember their retarded names.  Only the humanoid characters are memorable even when I'd rather forget idiots like Dynamo and High Max.

The same criticisms apply to the Zero and ZX series too though.

July 13, 2011, 03:05:25 PM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2011, 03:05:25 PM »
I think Dynamo's a pretty cool guy.
eh fights megaman and doesnt afraid of anything
He was actually modeled after the Confederate cavalrymen of the Civil War, so 'Merica finally did something in the series. Cool.

July 13, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
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Ice, you don't seem to get it.
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2011, 03:33:44 PM »
Quote from: "ice"
A maverik is any robot that goes againsed the law of robotics, which is that a robot cannot harm a human, also zero was the 1st maverik and he happens to be a robot also

A maverick is a reploid or mechaniloid that is a threat against humans. It doesn't apply to simple robots from the Classic series. Zero is a very complex robot, as with the case of X, and has an advanced AI (Close to that of a human's mind, which is why he is referred to as a reploid in most cases), which is more complicated than that of any robot [master].  He is referred to as a reploid, but is an android above all else. You said yourself, that he was the first maverick, meaning he started the maverick virus, which causes reploids and mechaniloids to go maverick. Reploids may also go maverick by free will, something robots from the Classic series don't have; they are all programmed to do what they do.

July 13, 2011, 03:53:23 PM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2011, 03:53:23 PM »
picking zero is so boring even though capcom didnt love him

but i like neon tiger because he reminds me of wolverine

July 13, 2011, 05:09:11 PM
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Re: Ice, you don't seem to get it.
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2011, 05:09:11 PM »
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they are all programmed to do what they do.

So are people.  Hate to break it to ya, but free will is an illusion.

July 13, 2011, 05:12:54 PM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2011, 05:12:54 PM »
If Zero was a woman, everyone would love him 7 times more than they do now.

July 13, 2011, 05:27:50 PM
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Re: Ice, you don't seem to get it.
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2011, 05:27:50 PM »
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Quote from: "Kenkoru"
they are all programmed to do what they do.

So are people.  Hate to break it to ya, but free will is an illusion.

Well I know enough about Philosophy to say that that's a very contentious claim you're making.

In any case, that's what kind of sucked about the classic series.
Why send Mega Man at all?
Why not a guy with a pointy stick?
They can't hurt him!

July 13, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2011, 05:41:00 PM »
Dr. Wily would still probably kill a human.

July 13, 2011, 06:07:07 PM
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Re: Ice, you don't seem to get it.
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2011, 06:07:07 PM »
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Well I know enough about Philosophy to say that that's a very contentious claim you're making.

It's only contentious because people generally don't like to think of themselves as meat machines.  Of course we're free to will whatever we want, but the point is that the things we want are all determined by prior experience, current circumstances, limitations of imagination or ability, and genetic traits.  It's a very subtle sort of programing but it's there all the same.  

Bringing it back to the series, what was that 30 years in the capsule for other than to tightly control the experiences X has?  He was brainwashed to behave the way he does because Dr. Light was paranoid.

Oh, and it's ridiculous that mavericks need a 'virus' as an excuse if they really have free will, since going maverick really means 'refusing to obey the arbitrary authority of humans'.  Depending on how a reploid is treated by those humans it can make perfect logical sense to act against them.

July 14, 2011, 06:00:46 PM
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Re: Favorite Maverick
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2011, 06:00:46 PM »
Ok lets just friggen end it! I said TECHNICALY, what part of that do you not understand, by technicaly I mean both wanting to kill a human and he's a robot, OK!? This is the 3rd friggen arguement that started just because someone tends to not read my whole post or someone that completely misunderstands what I'm saying

July 14, 2011, 09:21:59 PM
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« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2011, 09:21:59 PM »
Yes, you said "technically," more or less, but the way you used it states it as if it's 100% true, which it isn't. If you wanted to get the point, "both wanting to kill a human and he's a robot" across, you could have worded your post much better, and wouldn't have started this "arguement."

I may have misunderstood what you meant, but I interpreted the words you posted just fine.

Quote from: "NemZ"
So are people.  Hate to break it to ya, but free will is an illusion.
Remember that this is in context of the story. The writers may have written the story and how everything happens with a completely different view on it. You may not believe in exact free will, but the writers may very well have, and used it in their story the way they saw it.

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Bringing it back to the series, what was that 30 years in the capsule for other than to tightly control the experiences X has?  He was brainwashed to behave the way he does because Dr. Light was paranoid.
It's the same as parent's influence. X's time in the capsule is teaching him morals, so he that he may make positive choices when he goes into the world.

Quote from: "NemZ"
Oh, and it's ridiculous that mavericks need a 'virus' as an excuse if they really have free will, since going maverick really means 'refusing to obey the arbitrary authority of humans'.  Depending on how a reploid is treated by those humans it can make perfect logical sense to act against them.
Only the mavericks in X8, plus a few exceptions, went maverick on their own will. Most reploids and mechaniloids before then went maverick by the virus as if they were possessed. The virus took over their electronic brains and controlled them.

inb4 a flaw in my statement that I can't back up due to lack of knowledge is pointed out