MM8BDM Best-Ever Servers

[TailsMK4]

I'm trying to remember...I think it was Balrog who set up the Mission Mode Server. Anyway, Survival is broken in v1c atm, so it's fine.

As for the server count, BE is setting up an updated version of BestBot so it removes inactive servers. This is why the server count seemed to be cut in half recently. As for me, I only do two servers at a time, and right now it is Saxton Hale and CTF.

[Rozark]

Because when OJ suggested hosting possibilities when conserving BE use to 15 servers, he did acknowledge and accomodate for those sort of 'non metagame' mods.

If you want these "lesser used map packs" or "niche game modes" to get feedback and improve, Host them with your own bandwidth. Best-Ever is not your sandbox.

Yea, he basically told other mods to get out.

it is silly to suggest that OJ is acting like he owns the Best-Ever servers.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility that we could find ourselves with our hosting rights revoked if we keep going the way we are.

Hosting things like BME and underplayed 1 flag is like kicking out dozens of school kids from the park so you and your three friends can play checkers in the middle of the soccer field.

Best-Ever is not your sandbox.

Gee I wonder why it sounds like a dictatorship.

And what is Rozark referring to by 'non metagame' mods?

Mods that aren't hosted often. Example: 1flagctf/KY Classes/Screw Scramble/insert mappack not named CSCM/IX/AMP here

I'll conclude on the note that no matter what you add with duel, duel will ALWAYS be pure competition. It's a 1v1, fight to the death, who's the better man, bragging rights mode of gameplay. There is no way to lighten it up, especially when the community is divided among casual and competitive players.

[TailsMK4]

Um, does it really matter what is hosted, as long as people come to the server? I think this discussion of "non metagame" modes is getting off-topic. I even hosted Mafia to try to figure out what was going on in the other server, and it ended up staying up a bit longer since there was interest.

[Tengu]

He's not trying to run BE, he's trying to get some sort of a regulated system going,  and to some extent I agree with OJ. For example, I don't think its fair to host a testing server for teapartyclasses. At least not keeping it there. I think hosting test servers is fine as long as you take it down when you're done. BE is for everyone to enjoy, not a personal hosting tool. Its nice of BE to even let us use this, so we shouldn't abuse it. You wanna host saxton? Go for it. But if someone else already put it up, then just play in that one instead of making a new one. You don't need to own a server to play in it.

[Orange juice :l]

It's fine when you host a Best-Ever server for 15 minutes every couple of days or so no matter how silly or pointless or private, because You're not eating up much of Best-Ever's limited resources. If a Saxton Hale server is getting 15 player-hours a day, that's fine, keep hosting it. If you're hosting some obscure game mode that's only played every couple of weeks for 3 hours, there's no reason to leave it up in that downtime. Close it until the people want to play it again, so people can host their own servers with the freed up space. This way, people get to play More niche game modes. See how it works?

And please, tell me; how are four Saxton Hale servers LESS monopolizing than this plan?

[Zard1084]

Oh about the teapartyclasses testing server the person who put up the server never killed it when i told him to... so blame him

[Orange juice :l]

Or, you could take responsibility and get him to take it down, or contact the BE admins if he's no longer around

[Zard1084]

Ok then i'll contact him and also i would host it if i wasn't such a derp and learned how to use it...

[Knux]

I see a Saxton server hosting maps I posted on the CSCM thread. The first time I saw it, my first instinct was to go and take down the maps from Mediafire, simply because having people download so many files (which aren't even in the map rotation!) is retarded.

And the sad part is, people actually go there. Well, SHIT.  

[Jenova]

Just thought I'd pop in to address some concerns.

First of all, we're going to be addressing the empty server problem in a future build by pruning servers that have the least amount of playtime (time of players in server / uptime). We're hoping that this drastically reduces the number if unplayed servers.

As for the server resources, BE can physically handle a larger amount of servers. In fact, servers like chillax use an order of magnitude more resources than a few megaman servers would. The 101 server limit is just an arbitrary number that I picked out so that we wouldn't have too many servers. We're actually going to be increasing this number to either 150 or 200.

Thirdly, if you need to find out who hosted a server for whatever reason, you can pop by the zandronum IRC network (irc.zandronum.com) and join our channel at #bestever. From there on, you can simply type .owner <port_number> and it'll display which user hosted the server. If you want to request we take down a server because of inactivity, you can feel free to message us regarding that in #bestever because when we prune the servers right now (manually), I usually just shut down all of the servers with passwords on them.

[Orange juice :l]

Thanks for filling us in. Looking forward to that automatic pruning feature  

[cosmos5000]

i cant download this wad saxton&friendsv3d-sprites+music+misc but it was set to private and whem i try to download on best ever wads site it downloads a zip instead of the text and my doomseeker cant download it is there anyother way to get that wad?

[Emmanuelf06]

Oh yeah, we don't have TLMS Classes server (i hope one when v6g will be online)

And the V6F SAXTON HALE server CRASHED! And is not more online..

[Emmanuelf06]

Ok there is a TLMS but lol, it's only NEEDLEMAN MAP and we can't CALL VOTE. WTTroll ?
And TLMS is 1-3 life, now, it's like TDM with buckshot.....must be a time limit with 100 lifes .....

Anyways...

EDIT: Now maps are ok but cheats can be used........ xD


EDIT: Tsuki told me, Class v6F are made for TDM, right? Woohoo told me: a lot of class are op" and we are on the duel server....
Tsuki told me, Classe are made specially for TDM and DM.

So, maybe i didnt understand well....It can be good to have a general TDM server for class? (with pack map)

But do you think, guys, class are made for TLMS or TDM? It depends yes, but the best to do ?

[tsukiyomaru0]

Ok there is a TLMS but lol, it's only NEEDLEMAN MAP and we can't CALL VOTE. WTTroll ?
And TLMS is 1-3 life, now, it's like TDM with buckshot.....must be a time limit with 100 lifes .....

Anyways...

EDIT: Now maps are ok but cheats can be used........ xD


EDIT: Tsuki told me, Class v6F are made for TDM, right? Woohoo told me: a lot of class are op" and we are on the duel server....
Tsuki told me, Classe are made specially for TDM and DM.

So, maybe i didnt understand well....It can be good to have a general TDM server for class? (with pack map)

But do you think, guys, class are made for TLMS or TDM? It depends yes, but the best to do ?

Basically, I meant that Classes V6F are more suited for DM, TDM, due to the way it was balanced. People can play on LMS and TLMS, but have to expect "OP Complaints" because of how easily some classes can absorb or deal damage, and add to the fact there's no Health Pickup in those modes.

For Duel, it feels OP because the classes pretty much give you the desired weapon all the time, rather than you having to look for it in the map (Imagine if someone modded Doom to always have classes that allows you to start with a Shotgun, Super Shotgun, Rocket Launcher and others. For added nightmare, add INFINITE AMMO to those classes. That's how cheap it can be in 1v1)

But I think this ain't subject for here, instead let's Discuss the servers: We could use a Chaos Generator server, don't you think so? After all, we want to have a party at times, and what mode is better for it than Chaos Generator?