Balrog's Fixed Saxton Hale - Reports of my death, yadayada

[Russel]

Welp...I guess I should mention this at some point.

I'm working on an entirely different mod that does what Gospel mentioned, it has the same concept of 1 vs the world, but there is no restrictions to melee-instakill attacks.
This will allow for great variation in the bosses themselves as well as potential for more balance.
Anyhow...this was forked off of my old version of "saxton hale" that I began development on before it even crossed silversin's mind.

[Balrog]

Anyway, yes, I think that the instakill melee monoculture is a bit disconcerting. Witness my Dark Matter Knight idea, even if it will be supported by ZDoom some time after the heat death of the universe. Also witness Quote and Curly Brace.

EDIT: Also, Saxton Hale has always been meme-based.

[DarkAura]

'Bout freaking time I finished this, ugh.



Any tips on how I can touch the skins up a tiny bit before I anything with them?

[Zard1084]

'Bout freaking time I finished this, ugh.



Any tips on how I can touch the skins up a tiny bit before I anything with them?

Those look Frigging AWESOME!! *cough* sorry about that...
They look fine to me.

[SmashTheEchidna]

You know, I suggested an entire moveset for him, but I think it got lost somewhere in the depths of the original thread. Also having an instakill Charge Kick can be pretty OP if you ask me. Especially since he can refire pretty quickly.

Well never mind that, I'm gonna write it out in an actual hale suggestion format.

Captain Falcon

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Name: Captain Falcon

Skin: Captain Falcon (W.I.P.)

Theme: (Whichever people decide on if there are any plans to replace it.)

Health: Above Average

Speed: Very Fast. (Considering his reputation for being the fastest character in the Super Smash Bros Series, (second fastest in Brawl, 'cause there's no outrunning Sonic.) He should probably be one of, if not the fastest hales out there.)

Color Scheme: Leave it to the Skin.

Attack: Standard combo: He punches twice, then stops movement to attack with his knee before performing a rapid flurry of jabs. (Cannot move during the last two attacks.) You have to keep pressing/holding fire to pull out the whole thing. Otherwise you'll just attack just as many times as you press fire. The damage output is pretty low, (except for the knee, which is a bit stronger) but it's fast and requires no real cooldown.
Obituary: Player was defeated by Captain Falcon (Player).

Secondary attack: Falcon Kick: Attacks with a flying kick, boosting self forward a great distance. It'll either:
a) Do ripping damage as he crashes into people.
b) Deal a chunk of damage while knocking targets in random directions.
c) Cause a small explosion upon impact with anything, launching self backwards and into the air.
When used while airborne, he dives down to the ground and causes a shockwave upon landing. If he lands on top of someone, it won't be instant death but it'll probably destroy them quickly if they can't get away.
~Secondary Attack takes up the entire super jump gauge. Is overridden by Rage when at full.
Obituary: Player was kicked out by Captain Falcon (Player)'s Falcon Kick.

Super Jump: Falcon Dive: Leaps up into the air with a forward thrust. The jump is only half as high as the norm, but if he manages to grab someone in mid-air, he boosts off of them in an explosion which thrusts him upward (and slightly backward) while refilling the Super Jump gauge back to full for reuse. Falcon Dive is lethal.
Obituary: Player was sent plummeting from Captain Falcon (Player)'s Falcon Dive.

Rage: There are two candidates:
1) Falcon Punch: Basically the same as before, but the size and radius are WAY bigger. He also takes minimal damage while charging, (if not being completely invulnerable) So basically you're forced to just get out the way when he uses it.
2) Blue Falcon: I'm debating over having him drive around in it like the Battle&Chase Mod, or somehow base it off of his SSBB version with the cutscene. I'm afraid the former would be OP, though.

[Hallan Parva]

'Bout freaking time I finished this, ugh.

thanks for posting that

otherwise I would have forgotten I did a Curly Brace skin myself





what do you guys think

I mean if you like DA's more I won't butt in anymore, but





EDIT: to be completely honest I think Quote is the raddest ever and I love his Super Missile Launcher sprites

even though I'm not too fond of Curly she does go well with Quote's art style
so unless / until I go make a Quote I think you should just ignore me for the moment and use DA's skins

[Balrog]

I honestly prefer SmashBro's technique of modding Nicalis sprites to be lol8bit, but these are at least better than the Mega Man style ones. However, the eyes are still derptastic, and the Clone is both very obviously missing the antennae and looks like it's made of marshmallow due to a lack of body shading. They'll do, but I'm open to modifications and replacements after the initial release.

Also, lol 50 replies.

[DarkAura]

I honestly prefer SmashBro's technique of modding Nicalis sprites to be lol8bit, but these are at least better than the Mega Man style ones.
CHAOS_FANTAZY's original request was to use a MegaMan-styled Quote for the Hale. Since he's pretty much given up on Quote because of the time I wasted procrastinating, I've pretty much adopted the request as my own. If a skin of Quote/Curly/Clones gets made based off of Nicalis' sprites, they can be replaced. I've no problem with that. I'll just release my version as skins.
However, the eyes are still derptastic,
I think I should've made the eyes darker is the reason why they look derpish. If not, I'd need to know how to underp them.
and the Clone is both very obviously missing the antennae
The Clones don't have the antennas.
and looks like it's made of marshmallow due to a lack of body shading.
I think I didn't use a dark enough shading for the body.
They'll do, but I'm open to modifications and replacements after the initial release.

Also, now that this is finally done, after patching up a few more things for this after the next release, I can finally start doing work on Spike.

[CHAOS_FANTAZY]

For the textbooks, I only suggested the use of that skin because it was better (If only slightly) than going with a stock.
And the reason I backed off from Quote is because there was so much fighting about how his moveset would be.  So.  Much.  Fighting.  I took one look at it and thought "I don't want to be a part of this," then proceeded to skedaddle off.

So I think the skins are good for the most part; there's only one thing that really bothers me.  Why does Curly have her arms positioned like Roll does?  In the canon incarnations, Roll is either a joke or a complete wimp, explaining her dainty stance.  Curly is a strong humanoid robot built for combat; why would she use the same dainty pose?

I would re-dump the boss ideas I found most interesting but I'd just be obnoxious

[Balrog]

I think I should've made the eyes darker is the reason why they look derpish. If not, I'd need to know how to underp them.

I think the problem is that you tried to give them irises large eyes that are a solid color; that rarely works at this scale. For the Clone, make the eyes a solid shade of red, because red eyes are EVILLLLLL.

The Clones don't have the antennas.

I know that. However, it's very obvious where the antennas were edited out on the back/right and back poses. Make the curve there more gradual.

I think I didn't use a dark enough shading for the body.

Yup, you didn't. You should probably also put shading lines down the middle of the clone's back. Both Curly and Clone would do well to have some semblance of a bust as well.

In other news, all the robots may benefit from having their skin tone be a shade of gray instead of white, since color theory and the darkish levels in Cave Story mean that it looks more "accurate", even though both Quote and Curly were near-white. Look at some CS fanart (the ones that don't make them Caucasian, anyway) to see what I mean.

Why does Curly have her arms positioned like Roll does?  In the canon incarnations, Roll is either a joke or a complete wimp, explaining her dainty stance.  Curly is a strong humanoid robot built for combat; why would she use the same dainty pose?

In case you haven't noticed, Curly is kinda sorta out of her mind. Also because lazy, I would presume.

[Galactan]

Now that the old thread is dead, are you taking Hale suggestions?

[Jatea]

Now that the old thread is dead, are you taking Hale suggestions?

I asked that question ages ago
Except for the part where SilverSin's thread died

I do maintain the list of Every Hale Suggestion Ever*, though.
So if Balrog decides to take suggestions, he can go wade through the sea of suggestions contained there.


*as of Friday, 2/15/2013 10:23 PM EST

[FTX6004]

Can i put this gilgamesh skin to gilgamesh hale.

[GameAndWatcher]

Can i put this gilgamesh skin to gilgamesh hale.

That's actually not half bad. Protip: Get rid of the URL tags in your pictures.

[FTX6004]

Can i put this gilgamesh skin to gilgamesh hale.

That's actually not half bad. Protip: Get rid of the URL tags in your pictures.

What do you mean.