Balrog's Fixed Saxton Hale - Reports of my death, yadayada

[ZeStopper]

You can make your own using the launcher.

[tsukiyomaru0]

suggestion related to FlashBomb: when a hale is hit with it, it should still cause stunlock, but give a powerprotection item to the hale when entering Pain.FlashBomb that lasts for at least 5 tics. That will prevent heavy stunlock from flashbombing.

EDIT: However, you may want to think twice about this. As much as it stunlocks them, it is also an effective way to create area denial and to charge their rage.

[Metallix]

Because we can never have enough ranged or Megaman Hales, I submit this for consideration.

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Name: Warmonger Mars
Skin: Stardroid Mars. I'm planning on making this skin eventually.
Voice Clips: TF2 Soldier?
Health: 2500-2700 (tankish, of course)
Speed: 80% (somewhat slower)
Strength: 1/4 damage from explosive weapons (Hyper Bomb, Napalm Bomb, Flash Bomb, ect)
Weakness: extra damage from water weapons (Water Wave, Bubble Lead, ect)
Other: No recoil or knockback. At all. Tank mows over everything.

Main Attack: Photon Triad: A spread fire attack that fires three heavily-damaging missiles. Will IG if all three hit the same target (essentially, point-blank). About 1.5 second cooldown to avoid spam.
Item: Landmine: Drops an IG mine that is triggered by proximity or automatically detonates after about five-ten seconds. 5 uses.

Super Jump: Napalm Booster: Just your standard super jump, but drops two grenades (Napalm Bomb-like weapon) at the peak of the jump for aerial attacks.
Rage: Photon Barrage: Essentially this. Fires about 10-15 homing missiles that each do about as much damage as a single mainfire missile. Will utterly destroy everything in big, open areas. Requires ten-second cooldown before you can attack afterwards.

Theme:

Possibly. I'd prefer something metal and brutal-sounding, but I'm not really inclined to go digging around YT for something right now.

[fortegigasgospel]

Because we can never have enough ranged or Megaman Hales, I submit this for consideration.

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Name: Warmonger Mars
Skin: Stardroid Mars. I'm planning on making this skin eventually.
Voice Clips: TF2 Soldier?
Health: 2500-2700 (tankish, of course)
Speed: 80% (somewhat slower)
Strength: 1/4 damage from explosive weapons (Hyper Bomb, Napalm Bomb, Flash Bomb, ect)
Weakness: extra damage from water weapons (Water Wave, Bubble Lead, ect)
Other: No recoil or knockback. At all. Tank mows over everything.

Main Attack: Photon Triad: A spread fire attack that fires three heavily-damaging missiles. Will IG if all three hit the same target (essentially, point-blank). About 1.5 second cooldown to avoid spam.
Item: Landmine: Drops an IG mine that is triggered by proximity or automatically detonates after about five-ten seconds. 5 uses.

Super Jump: Napalm Booster: Just your standard super jump, but drops two grenades (Napalm Bomb-like weapon) at the peak of the jump for aerial attacks.
Rage: Photon Barrage: Essentially this. Fires about 10-15 homing missiles that each do about as much damage as a single mainfire missile. Will utterly destroy everything in big, open areas. Requires ten-second cooldown before you can attack afterwards.

Theme:

Possibly. I'd prefer something metal and brutal-sounding, but I'm not really inclined to go digging around YT for something right now.

How about this

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Cause Mars' theme.

[tsukiyomaru0]

Also, idea on how to make Spy's lives system less stressing:
First method: Have his second health be based on how many players are still alive
Second method: Scrap the life counting, double the health (to compensate for just having one life rather than two), have a script check for when his health first drops below 50% of its max value and, when it does, teleport him to a random spawnpoint.

[Superjustinbros]

Still don't like slender, IMO. One game recently with 25+ players we all voted for a new map when we got Slenderman in a netgame. It passed. We actually did it twice. And then we did another vote with 20 players,  It passed. His concept is poorly executed

Any ideas on restoring Saxton's original rage behavior of just receiving no knockback from weapons instead of 100% invincibility?

[Koal]

What Slender needs is an actual rage and to be even less visible. I like the whole concept of slender but its just poorly executed.
On a side note, Ninja Spy's rage needs to make him COMPLETELY invisible rather then having poor man's invisibility. Any player with a good eye can spot a Ninja Spy using his rage. Also we could give him a secondary weapon too. Shuriken's, throwing knives, anything really.

And while I'm at it, I'm gonna suggest a Hale because we need less TF2 and melee Hale's. Seriously, we got too many of both of those.

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Name: Allen O'Neil
Skin: Well until someone can make a sprite for him, its going to have to be a placeholder

Hit points: 400 + 120 for each player
Speed: 110%
Armour: Normal

Primary attack: M60: Fires a barrage of 4 extremely fast moving projectiles that do 25 points of damage each. Rather slow refire rate.

Rage: Grenade Barrage: Allen O'Neil begin's chucking grenades at his enemies. Grenades do sizable damage (50 damage) and have a sizable blast radius. He'll throw grenades for about 5 seconds at a rate of 2 grenades per second when the rage is activated.

Super Jump: Absolutely none. Instead, Allen O'Neil is able to summon up to 3 Bazooka Soldiers to help support him. Bazooka soldiers have 200HP each. Their gun fires a projectile comparable to a rocket that explodes doing 10 points of direct damage + up to 20 splash. The projectile has a medium splash radius. They will also attack with a knife lunge if the enemy gets close enough. The knife lunge has short range, but does considerable damage (50HP).

Obituaries: M60: "(Player) was riddled full of holes by Allen O'Neil's(Hale) M60."
Grenade barrage: "(Player) was turned into chunky salsa by Allen O'Neil's(Hale) Grenade."
Bazooka Soldier: "(Player) was blown to smithereens by a Bazooka Soldier"
"(Player) got the business end of a Bazooka soldier's Knife lunge."


Theme:

[The Killer Nacho]

On a side note, Ninja Spy's rage needs to make him COMPLETELY invisible rather then having poor man's invisibility. Any player with a good eye can spot a Ninja Spy using his rage.

Wouldn't an invisible OHKO idea be kind of... oh, you know... OP? I'm likely wrong on this, but I THINK he can stack 2 rages for solid (not the transparency) invisibility.

[tsukiyomaru0]

On a side note, Ninja Spy's rage needs to make him COMPLETELY invisible rather then having poor man's invisibility. Any player with a good eye can spot a Ninja Spy using his rage.

Wouldn't an invisible OHKO idea be kind of... oh, you know... OP? I'm likely wrong on this, but I THINK he can stack 2 rages for solid (not the transparency) invisibility.

Better idea on Ninja Spah's rage:
Rather than flash, create a cloud of smoke (check Mafia Mode/Assassination Mode for it) and give him 95% invisibility, but add a custom effect for when damaged with fire or water based attacks: create droplets or small flames on him for a few seconds after hit (like SinkSpray).

[Ceridran]

Another reason I want to remove voiceclips is because voiceclips ruin the whole sneaking thing about Ninja Spy.

A ninja easily detected? You guys are still fine with this?

[tsukiyomaru0]

Another reason I want to remove voiceclips is because voiceclips ruin the whole sneaking thing about Ninja Spy.

A ninja easily detected? You guys are still fine with this?

The voice clips are just nuisance overall.

[Koal]

I think Ninja spy can stand to lose his voice clips, but I think for the most part they should stay. I see nothing wrong with them and it's really one of the few thing's that really separate's a few hales. Saxton Hale, Gilgamesh and Christian brutal sniper being the biggest offenders of this.
But yeah, Ninja spy's rage needs a big change because it does hardly anything for him now. Full invisibility would be a bit unbalanced if it lasted as long as his ghetto invisibility did.
And Tsuki, though while I like the idea you have to remember those smoke clouds were pitifully small and hurt you just as much as they hurt the enemy.

[Superjustinbros]

And while I'm at it, I'm gonna suggest a Hale because we need less TF2 and melee Hale's. Seriously, we got too many of both of those.

Agreed, especially with the TF2 Hales; We already have four.

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can anybody make a server with this?

[Superjustinbros]

There's Saxton Hale servers live all the time; you have to look in Doomseeker.