MM8BDM V3b Released!

[Ceridran]

> Deathwind's MM8BDM Vanilla Server (v3b)

I don't see the problem.

[beta]

But I don't see it.

[Superjustinbros]

New Music for Time/Oil by OrangeMario

I'm sort of neutral on TImeman's new theme. The new ticking at the beginning is much better, but the rest IMO seems too advanced for something the original Mega Man [1] was able to do. As for Oil Man... I can't really say I'm enjoying it.

[-FiniteZero-]

That thing in the new Gemini Man stage.

The one that you can break with the Proto Buster.

I see what you did there.

[fortegigasgospel]

But I don't see it.

Use Doomseeker, Deathwind's Vanilla is ALWAYS up.

[-Daiki-TheOni]

I don't want to seem an "anoying orange" but...

We have maps for DM, TDM, DUEL, CTF, OF, and etc.... but...where are the invasion maps??
Just think about it, people that doesn't have DOOM2, can't experience what in the world means invasion.
I know this would be bad for the filesize of the MM8BDM core but just make 1 and only a good 1 map, just to play invasion in MM8BDM, someone tried to do invasion maps before, but He/She failed. So just that, a "sugestion", If can be done awesome if not MM8BDM will still be the BEST game for me.

[beta]

But I don't see it.

Use Doomseeker, Deathwind's Vanilla is ALWAYS up.

Okay.

[Ceridran]

Oh, there's a guide for setting up Doomseeker, it's in the Tutorial Collection.

Not using that might lead to confusion, so best to do so.

[Ivory]

I don't want to seem an "anoying orange" but...

We have maps for DM, TDM, DUEL, CTF, OF, and etc.... but...where are the invasion maps??
Just think about it, people that doesn't have DOOM2, can't experience what in the world means invasion.
I know this would be bad for the filesize of the MM8BDM core but just make 1 and only a good 1 map, just to play invasion in MM8BDM, someone tried to do invasion maps before, but He/She failed. So just that, a "sugestion", If can be done awesome if not MM8BDM will still be the BEST game for me.

We're not supporting invasion as of now. If anything, that would a better topic for Mission Mode.

[Stardust]

I just noticed something surprising. The new Shadow Man's map, which is, quite a small/medium stage (a kind of bigger Cut Man stage), somehow, managed... to possess 17 different weapons : Gemini Laser, Hyper Bomb, Silver Tomahawk, Charge Kick, Danger Wrap, Yamatomato Spear, Tornado Hold, Water Balloon, Flash Stopper, Shadow Blade, Sakugarne, Spark Shock, Atomic Fire, Fire Storm, Leaf Shield, Bubble Lead and Homing Sniper.
17 is the record of different weapons a map has in vanilla MM8BDM (the second map which have that much weapons is Skull Castle Entrance).

[JoshAdams88]

You're kidding me right.
SEVENTEEN ON THAT KIND OF MAP.
also mm5dar has about 18 iirc

[fortegigasgospel]

I don't want to seem an "anoying orange" but...

We have maps for DM, TDM, DUEL, CTF, OF, and etc.... but...where are the invasion maps??
Just think about it, people that doesn't have DOOM2, can't experience what in the world means invasion.
I know this would be bad for the filesize of the MM8BDM core but just make 1 and only a good 1 map, just to play invasion in MM8BDM, someone tried to do invasion maps before, but He/She failed. So just that, a "sugestion", If can be done awesome if not MM8BDM will still be the BEST game for me.

Also don't forget DOOM has Domination, a Node control game mode, which 8bdm doesn't support either.  Though Domination would be much simpler to implement (Douro has done so actually if I remember correctly), invasion is not. Invasion requires not only specially made maps, but monster actors to be made as well.

[Stardust]

It doesn't look like it has, but it has. But some of them are scattered on areas that need Rush Coil or something, so I guess it doesn't look that much weaponry-filling.
while you're right and it's time to sleep for me, let me say before that mm5dar has actually even more : 19 weapons-

[JoshAdams88]

Hey so uhh, whose idea was it to not nerf super arm? Low risk/skill high reward weapons like super arm seriously shouldn't exist. lol astro crush

[Ceridran]

You're saying that Super Arm is overpowered, huh?

So that means Atomic Fire is overpowered. It must also mean Astro Crush, which is almost always set in places hard to get to, overpowered. Is Hard Knuckle overpowered? According to you, yes, it deals near the same amount of damage Super Arm can. Sakugarne must be overpowered because it can easily kill people it gets close to. It makes you really easy to hit once you land. They're all power weapons, I don't see the problem.

Super Arm can score an OHKO, sure, but that's a pain to position. I suppose we should give Super arm 8 second air time until it hits the ground, nerf it's damage to 10, make it drain all of your ammo to empty by one single use with a full bar, and make it fall on you and crush you if you hold it with 1/4 of your health.

You shouldn't be seeking a nerf, you should be seeking balance.