MM8BDM v4 What maps do you feel need work?

[Emmanuelf06]

There is a dead end I need to address is in MM4SKU

If you  have low health, there is no way you are making out alive.

bah...i like when people go here, we can kill them easily with anyweap because the corridors is really limited...pretty useless part....
There is others good weapons who dont need to be find in a risked part. Like Airshooter, Drillbomb and others....
And for a ballade cracker..seriously....i would prefer see the Airshooter in this "dangerous" part ^^

[Megaman94]

But you get a good weapon.

But if you go in there with low health, you die and lose the weapon...

High risk, high reward?

Do you want Ballade Cracker of all things just handed to you on a pedestal?

No, although, you do get it in chapter 6 anyways, I am just saying maybe another hall way should be added. Besides, you shoot through the bone wall and hide behind the rock wall next to it. *cough* Camping *Cough*

bah...i like when people go here, we can kill them easily with anyweap because the corridors is really limited...pretty useless part....
There is others good weapons who dont need to be find in a risked part. Like Airshooter, Drillbomb and others....
And for a ballade cracker..seriously....i would prefer see the Airshooter in this "dangerous" part ^^

That's that seems like a good idea

[tsukiyomaru0]

Ballade Cracker for putting yourself in a dead end from which you have the lowest chance of escape? Bad idea.

[Kapus]

No, although, you do get it in chapter 6 anyways, I am just saying maybe another hall way should be added. Besides, you shoot through the bone wall and hide behind the rock wall next to it. *cough* Camping *Cough*

I don't see why it would be necessary. Ballade Cracker isn't impossible to get, it just requires careful attention and speed. It's arguably the most powerful weapon on the map (especially in duels), so it doesn't need to be any easier to get.

Also, that room is hardly an effective camping spot. As we have already established, it's a dead end. If someone comes in there, you have no where to go.

[Knux]

Or if someone simply shoots a Mega Ball in there. IIRC, it was on the map as well.

[fortegigasgospel]

If you  have low health, there is no way you are making out alive.

Solution, don't go in there with low HP. Or learn risk and reward, better stuff has a higher risk of death to get.

[Superjustinbros]

This is very minor, but anyone remember the train tracks in MM8CLO? The ones that are somehow able to make a perfect 90-degree turn? I was thinking perhaps the rails could be redesigned so the track curves in a more realistic fashion.

[Superjustinbros]

Double, I know, but can we make new Iceman and Crystalman maps that take advantage of a high level height? I have a thing against maps with those annoying warp holes. (especially Iceman's map, where the only way out is via teleporters)

[Ivory]

Double, I know, but can we make new Iceman and Crystalman maps that take advantage of a high level height? I have a thing against maps with those annoying warp holes. (especially Iceman's map, where the only way out is via teleporters)

I don't think you realize how impractical it is to use 3D Floors that way. Way, way too much work than it is worth.

[Kapus]

I think the main reason why crystal man is a multi-layered map like that is that the different textures and backgrounds used are vastly different.

And Ice Man would require a ton of 3D floors to work the same way, yeah.

[tsukiyomaru0]

I think the main reason why crystal man is a multi-layered map like that is that the different textures and backgrounds used are vastly different.

And Ice Man would require a ton of 3D floors to work the same way, yeah.

Not that much... MM1ICEX worked pretty well.

[Ivory]

I don't think you understand. Trying to make Ice Man's entire outside area a 3D Floor would require a lot of work. Work for a map that doesn't need it. It's fine as it is.

[tsukiyomaru0]

What I meant is that 3D floors and multi-layering isn't all that important when you can make a map look good with just one layer.

[Knux]

Going to post a few things before I inevitably forget about them.

Something that I noticed about MM5GRA is that the flow completely changes with the shift in gravity. I know it sounds painfully obvious, but think about how the current layout is made. In low gravity, everything can be traversed just fine. But in high gravity, it becomes an all out war or a bunch of fruitless running away.

It's kind of a gimmicky map. I'd much rather tackle the gravity in a different manner, giving each area different amounts of gravity, all indicated by arrows at their entrances.

MM5GYR needs to have no platforming over pits. It's bad enough having to tolerate all of that white in the sky and opponents going after you. And let's not forget stray Magnet Missiles. :/

Some things that stood out to me in MM6KNI:

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This place is a well known camp spot. I suggest making those pillars to the sides 32 units wide to allow Search Snake to hit campers better and a Block Everything property to the window behind to allow Tango Roll to bounce off instead of disappearing into nothingness.

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Wire Adaptor is next to the teleporter, which makes it both too easy to get prizes nearby and pointless because there's already two ways up quite near. How about moving Wire Adaptor to where Time Stopper is marking so that it can also make for a way back up to where Yamato Spear is?

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Copious amounts of misaligned textures (at least on software). Please try to fix these as they look ugly. Remember to use positive values when realigning them.

EDIT - Things about MM8DW2:

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These kinda bridges are accidents waiting to happen. When on top of them, it's not obvious it'll be a pitfall until getting very close to the gaps. Just make the gaps 32 units wide.

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Sharp corners look ugly, make them straight lines.

There's also that orange/white texture in the outer parts of the map. I'm always wondering how they fit in with every other texture in the map despite not using extra colors.

[SmashTheEchidna]

Wait, what the heck? Since when was Time Stopper in Knightman's stage?