Cutstuff Community Classes Contest #1 [DONE]

[!o! woohoo]

I think it would be a good idea in the second competition if it was community based and classes were judged by community members instead of judges (Like the mapping competitions). Another suggestion is to make judges not able to enter the competition, although, I think it is better if it is community based. I liked a lot of the classes and I am happy that I was able to share my class with everyone. Without this competition I wouldn't have made the Weavile class, credit to Clayton for making the swords dance and agility icons and sprites. Also, credit to Stardust and Fyone for testing my class.I also wanted to say that you can get shinies with my class if you are lucky (Weavile).

[*Alice]

Mech Unit B is not really a class that was fun to play or fit too well to the contest, though.
And it didn't seem all that creative, either.

I can't exactly understand what lead to it winning third place.

[Bikdark]

It has come to my attention that some of you are upset with my class (Mech Unit ?) winning the third place medal.

Honestly I'm displeased with ANY of the classes winning a medal. None of them flowed properly, none of them were creative, none were interesting, none were fun, none were GOOD enough to warrant any sort of award.

[Orange juice :l]

Unsportsmanlike as it seems (assuming Smash handed himself his own second place vote, the highest he could, he handed himself the medal too in effect due to overwhelming vote grabbing by the top two winners), Smash's decision honestly doesn't make a big impact at the end of the day. Not to be another bad guy here, but a lot of the classes had some rather glaring pitfalls and lack of creativity. Smash's class wasn't exactly stellar, even in comparison to some others, but I'm not really sure the medal in question is honestly that prestigious anymore. As an aside, I also noticed the top three characters shared the same, as TotalBiscuit would put it, no offence, "Anime Bullshit Senpai" design. Slight Bias?

I have notes on each class as to why the general competition was unsatisfactory, but I'll reserve that unless requested so as to save us a larger flame war.

[*Alice]

As an aside, I also noticed the top three characters shared the same, as TotalBiscuit would put it, no offence, "Anime Bullshit Senpai" design. Slight Bias?

That irked me a lot about his class. It had nothing at all to do with the game the sprites are from, nor the character from that game.
Of course, I'm aware that you can't expect him to create a completely new skin for this contest, but it really was something that made his class even more like something that shouldn't get a medal.

I think a medal should be for something that exceeds the expectations, not something acceptable.

But most of the competitors were far from good, too.

[xColdxFusionx]

To be honest, I'm not especially happy with the fact Smash got a medal either; I had Mech Unit Beta towards the bottom of my list of everyone, yet it seems to be rather popular among many of the other Cutstuff members. To be honest, this round was sort of a trial run and the judging rules were sort of made up on the spot. We're currently discussing how said rules will work for next round, but I'm not calling to upturn the decision.

As for Mech Unit Beta not being an ice class, I'd like to point to Weavile and Weo Weo Ice. (Also a little bit at Adara, though as previously mentioned there's arguments that can be easily made for her.)

Also, in interest of full disclosure, Smash gave himself his third place vote. The other point came from Korby.

Honestly I'm displeased with ANY of the classes winning a medal.

I know we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I admit that some of the entries were... far from stellar, but I don't see your name on the contestants list, so I'm unsure you have a right to call out every single contestant. If you think you can do better, join the next one. I'd be interested in seeing what you can come up with.

[Hallan Parva]

Unsportsmanlike as it seems (assuming Smash handed himself his own second place vote, the highest he could, he handed himself the medal too in effect due to overwhelming vote grabbing by the top two winners), Smash's decision honestly doesn't make a big impact at the end of the day

I really didn't want to show up until the next one started, but just to set the record straight:

[12:25:45 AM] SmashMan.EXE:
Korby: Freon, Adara, Mech Unit ?
Coldy: Adara, Freon, Vanilla Ice
Smash: Adara, Freon, Mech Unit ?

[12:44:46 AM] xColdxFusionx:
Adara: 8
Freon: 7
Mech Unit B: 2
Vanilla Ice: 1

Maybe Korby just put the point totals to avoid bias, but the hole's already dug at this point so whatever man.

I think it would be a good idea in the second competition if it was community based and classes were judged by community members instead of judges (Like the mapping competitions). Another suggestion is to make judges not able to enter the competition, although, I think it is better if it is community based.

Believe it or not, the mapping compo wasn't 100% community-based. The community had a huge hand in voting, but if the panel of judges didn't agree they held authority over the "final word" on who won, so to speak. Also as fun as community voting can be, sometimes people vote for entries (or avoid voting for entries) on other reasons than what they submitted to the contest, and that's just not fun for anyone. However, for future classes competitions a judge isn't allowed to win a medal, so if one of the judges (mainly Korby or I because Coldy's been lazy recently) decide to enter, we'll put one of the "backup judges" in our place to avoid personal bias, and consequently allow ourselves a chance of winning.

To be completely honest I half expected my medal to be revoked at this point. I still wouldn't vote for Vanilla Ice though.

And again, to end on a somewhat positive note:

I liked a lot of the classes and I am happy that I was able to share my class with everyone. Without this competition I wouldn't have made the Weavile class, credit to Clayton for making the swords dance and agility icons and sprites. Also, credit to Stardust and Fyone for testing my class.I also wanted to say that you can get shinies with my class if you are lucky (Weavile).

Couldn't have said it better myself. Glad you had fun entering!



EDIT: Ninja Cold Fusion! Would you look at that!

[Fyone]

I can't see how Mech Unit 'B' is creative the mainfire is a simple rapid fire gun with altfire bomb not unique in the slightest. He's also overpowered since he has high armour with a strong rapid fire 6hko gun. Also the bombs are useless and broken since you have unlimited but still useless since you can't move while using it.

EDIT: I forgot to say that I agree with OJ's post, I would like to see how this would end if everyone's class was Megaman with mega buster HUD so it would be judged completely on gameplay.

[xColdxFusionx]

An additional note for people still complaining about "But it's not an ice class":

Be glad I didn't submit my idea to the competition
It was half ice, half fire.
And it was also pretty spectacularly generic to boot.

[SmashTheEchidna]

I had a half ice, half fire class concept I've had sitting around for a while too that I could have submitted, but I feared the critical eye and sat out.

[Ceridran]

An additional note for people still complaining about "But it's not an ice class":

Be glad I didn't submit my idea to the competition
It was half ice, half fire.
And it was also pretty spectacularly generic to boot.

but ridley is too big

My idea was 40% blunt weaponry, 50% punching, and 10% ice. Unfortunately, I couldn't learn to code within 20 days and end with 1/4 of a decent class, (which was the extent to which my idea was) so I gave up.

Then afterwards I learn that two of the winners had their classes coded by King Yamato.

.. Two of them.

[Bikdark]

Then afterwards I learn that two of the winners had their classes coded by King Yamato.

.. Two of them.

Really now?
In a competition where you're expected to make something yourself then submit it as your own creation, it's customary to actually make it yourself.

[Korby]

Can someone else make my class for me?

Sure, if they want to. If they don't, don't pester them, gosh.

The contest is about design, not how well you can code.
Granted, if your design doesn't show through because the coding is bad, that matters.

[Ceridran]

Can someone else make my class for me?

Sure, if they want to. If they don't, don't pester them, gosh.

The contest is about design, not how well you can code.
Granted, if your design doesn't show through because the coding is bad, that matters.

oh right I forgot that was even a thing

[Kapus]

Then afterwards I learn that two of the winners had their classes coded by King Yamato.

.. Two of them.

Really now?
In a competition where you're expected to make something yourself then submit it as your own creation, it's customary to actually make it yourself.

In addition to what Korby said, this doesn't mean that those two people did absolutely nothing to help create the class. There's still stuff like graphics, sounds, and the general direction and concept of the class. Team efforts are great!