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Zero of MMX or Zero of MMZ ? What was the point of ICreates?
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July 08, 2014, 09:51:18 AM
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Date Registered: October 13, 2010, 03:00:53 PM
Re: Zero of MMX or Zero of MMZ ? What was the point of ICrea
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Eh, charecters die eventually and there's a lot of time passing between these series. You don't assume the original megaman is still kicking around somewhere in mmX do you? And at least he goes down as a heroic self-sacrifice trying to save the world one last time... there's respect in that.
You want a dick move on that front, see what Chrono Cross does to the original Trigger gang. Killed just as backstory by a joke villain and then the game tells you that you didn't actually 'win' anything at all in the first game... all while making a truely shitty sequel (asside from the music) that has almost none of the stylistic charm and pays lip service at best to the game mechanics of the original, but oh boy is jam-packed with pointless filler charecters who don't matter whatsoever. Yes I'm still bitter.
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July 08, 2014, 07:53:31 PM
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Emmanuelf06
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Date Registered: October 07, 2010, 03:03:19 AM
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July 08, 2014, 07:53:31 PM »
Sure, why not then. ^^
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July 08, 2014, 11:27:46 PM
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Date Registered: February 16, 2010, 04:44:54 AM
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July 08, 2014, 11:27:46 PM »
Well, nobody seemed to mourn the true and definitive death of DLN-001 "Mega Man", one of the greatest heroes of its time. He was presumably deactivated or destroyed in the end, and ultimately forgotten since no one ever mentions the casuality of X being called "Mega Man X".
I don't see anyone complaining about that, nor anyone complaining about X's ultimate demise 200 years after its definitive activation. And it's not like he was forgotten: the embodiment of "the Mega Man, the warrior in blue armor" is a concept that persist even as far into the timeline as the Legends lore.
As there is no canonical physical difference between MMZ Zero and MMX Zero aside from the loss of its original body and memories, but only artistical difference, it's all a matter of preference between the styles. I prefer MMX Zero, but that's not to say MMZ Zero doesn't have any charm, or that the games were bad "because you're not playing as Mega Man" or "because they killed X". That's honestly the silliest reason for justifying hate on the MMZ series. If you play the Mega Man games mainly because of the story and characters, you don't get it.
On another topic, that "lol ok whatever you say" way of responding to valid arguments just makes you look like a self-righteous blockhead. Please recapacitate.
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July 09, 2014, 12:32:41 AM
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Emmanuelf06
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Date Registered: October 07, 2010, 03:03:19 AM
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July 09, 2014, 12:32:41 AM »
I like the gameplay of MMZ, it's ok', but not a lot the gameplay for MMZX...
But i dont like the story of MMZ/ZX at all. I can have my opinion about that, no ? What's wrong with you guys ?
Just because i hate how megaman X is become a ghost without purpose (just here to help zero with a jacket), lol.
I dont care anymore about the topic anyways, we can't say what we want if we don't follow the general opinion (and sentiments, things)....
Basically Inafune hated MMX, so it's maybe the reason why MMX was like a weird ghost in mmz...and killed in mmz2 like if he was nothing.
I dont like MMZ/ZX for the story (and heroes design), you can't change people who have already their own sentiment and convictions, musashi.
It could be a rape of my soul if i change suddendly to say "Oh, it's cool finaly, i love mmZ zero design, and X is dead like a hero finaly! It's true".
When there was ZX, i sad VERY sad, because i was sure, Capcom wont make a new mmX game, because MMZ/ZX take the spot with inti creates who want absolutly kill the MMX serie. Be sure, if there was ZX3, X9 could be just impossible.
But capcom have seen, a lot of fans want a come back for Megaman X....and not a lot for ZX... so yeah.
Seriously, Why people doesnt accept criticism and people be like them', specially => The popular opinion.
Well, ok, MMZ is awesome, ZX is awesome, each time we have a MM ZXAF or MM AXLZX, it's awesome, new heroes each time, because it's certainly an awesome game from Inti Creates! So i enjoy the game, sure, i dont care about the soul of the serie.
You can lock the topic, i wont change for people, that's all.
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July 09, 2014, 01:45:01 AM
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Ivory
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July 09, 2014, 01:45:01 AM »
Infaune didn't hate MMX. He wanted the series to end with X5, and it was Capcom executives that forced the X series to continue. The Zero series practically ignored X6+ because as far as Infaune was concerned, X5 was the end of the series as he intended.
The problem however, is nothing to do with your opinions, as if you actually read what people said, no one is trying to tell you that you can't dislike Zero and ZX series more than Classic and MMX, what people are trying to tell you is that you need to have valid reasons instead of hating on them for outright nitpicky reasons. Which you then shrug off with "lol, ok" comments. Again, no one is trying to change your opinion. We're just arguing against your opinion since there is a lot of actual fact that you are outright ignoring and making crap up, such as this "Inafune hated MMX" crap.
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July 09, 2014, 02:22:39 AM
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Emmanuelf06
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Date Registered: October 07, 2010, 03:03:19 AM
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July 09, 2014, 02:22:39 AM »
But i must agree on something, Inafune was the most active to make megaman games, even if ZX failed with the sales, im pretty sure, he could listen the fans (like he does with mighty9) and make more megaman or mmX or legend games....he wanted continue Legend3 but capcom didnt want...
I dont say it's a bad guy, but i had the feeling (with rumors about a possible hate against MMX), he wanted replace MMX with a quick way.
Anyways, i wont be against the thing if Comcept get Megaman copyright (Megaman Universe could be back too *-*
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July 09, 2014, 02:49:58 AM
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Ivory
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Date Registered: August 25, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
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July 09, 2014, 02:49:58 AM »
Seeing as we have ended this discussion on a better, more friendly note, good bye thread.
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