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July 02, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
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Re: A "new" Megaman game is coming.....
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2015, 06:12:35 PM »
I'd assume the 3DS version would have the 3D effect given to games on that platform, similarly to how it was used in the 3D Classics line, Mutant Mudds, and Shovel Knight. That alone seems like it would take a little while longer to fine-tune and ensure the quality of the visuals.

July 03, 2015, 12:43:49 AM
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« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2015, 12:43:49 AM »
@Stonefunk- *Bad/overdone idea (not bad game)

I know I'm acting like an arse about this and I'm sorry for that, but why would you ask me why I'm mad, then turn around and say we gotta wait when waiting is what I've been saying the whole time?
1. I know what Capcom's done over the recent years. That all's been long since covered. Why act like fans have never expressed their dissapointment before?

2. You keep saying "they don't care, they don't care." Don't you think that's been covered by now? Why are you keeping on?

3. There's been other stuff people have liked that lasted less time than Megaman. Besides, don't you think Inafune, probably the only person that still cared for the series before and after quitting from Capcom after all the irritation he may have put up with, might've moved on by now? Mighty No. 9 is still coming regardless and that may become as good for all we know (it's supposed to be a spiritual successor for a reason.)

If Capcom finally does something new one day, good. If not, fine. Move on.

July 03, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
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« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2015, 06:25:47 PM »
Quote from: "ChaosUnlimited"
@Stonefunk- *Bad/overdone idea (not bad game)

I know I'm acting like an arse about this and I'm sorry for that, but why would you ask me why I'm mad, then turn around and say we gotta wait when waiting is what I've been saying the whole time?
1. I know what Capcom's done over the recent years. That all's been long since covered. Why act like fans have never expressed their dissapointment before?

2. You keep saying "they don't care, they don't care." Don't you think that's been covered by now? Why are you keeping on?

3. There's been other stuff people have liked that lasted less time than Megaman. Besides, don't you think Inafune, probably the only person that still cared for the series before and after quitting from Capcom after all the irritation he may have put up with, might've moved on by now? Mighty No. 9 is still coming regardless and that may become as good for all we know (it's supposed to be a spiritual successor for a reason.)

If Capcom finally does something new one day, good. If not, fine. Move on.

You forgot the point that everyone jumped at Capcom's neck as soon as Mega Man Legends 3 got cancelled. And let's never forget that many mistook Maverick Hunter for a cancelled game, some even saying "Capcom cancelled another Mega Man", while it was actually a canned project. People just want a reason or another to rant about companies:
Ubisoft? "A new Assassin's Creed every year?! Stop milking it!"
Activision? "Another Call of Duty?! Your milking too much!"
Nintendo? "Another Pokémon. They sure are desperate. They need to make a new IP!"
Sega? "Here comes Sonic 06-2!"
Square-Enix? "OMG, new FF sux! Bring back FF7" (I'm going to laugh so hard if the "remake" disappoints people again)
Atlus? "They keep recycling that Persona Visual Novel thing!"
Valve? "Gaben can't count to three!"
EA? "Electronic fArts is the wurst company in the world!"

And the list goes on and on. Impatient fans, oblivious fans, haters... They always find a reason to hate, no matter what, and often turns into a blind, pointless ranting about how this company or another is.

July 03, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
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Re: A "new" Megaman game is coming.....
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2015, 09:28:54 PM »
What about an other megaman? oh wait....
At least, some companies make a new game..... not only a cheap collection thing. x)
Not like capcom who make only pseudo-remastered games..... (except when it's street fighter or monster hunter).
It's not funny to blame capcom, i dont have fun with it, i thought they could make a new megaman game or a little thing like MM&Bass (In HD or i dont know) but after Star Force 3 , we didnt get any new megaman game except in 2010 with MM10 in 8 bits style.... and later street fighterXmegaman and now MMLC...it seems It becomes worse and worse. Megaman 9 was good, but 1 megaman in 8 bit style was enough for me, mm10 in 8bit style wasnt necessary, i think'
Even with Mighty9, i have kept faith with Capcom, but no more since "this" E3 2015 with them.....
Im not the kind who like bashing or just say "everything is 100% positive, or 100% negative, i try always to understand how it works from the background.....

Maybe something for Tokyo Game Show?....anyways......not like if there was only megaman games.... ;)

July 04, 2015, 08:55:25 PM
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Re: A "new" Megaman game is coming.....
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2015, 08:55:25 PM »
Be PATIENT. They are trying to motivated fans, so they can get faithful enough on Capcom to stop ranting about how "Capcom killed Mega Man" (even though we all know that this is not true, it is a fandom spliting that kills a franchise, slooooooooooowly), so Capcom might have another go at looking for a producer for Mega Man, so producers won't look at Mega Man's fandom and say "Well, they are threatening to kill me, literally, if the next Mega Man sucks, so I won't do anything!".

Ask yourself first: Would you become a producer to Mega Man if you saw those rabid fans?

July 04, 2015, 11:50:34 PM
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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2015, 11:50:34 PM »
I'm starting to think that Capcom might benefit from giving some sort of official speech in word form or something along those lines.

Basically just to say that they genuinely feel as if there isn't a whole lot that they can really do with the franchise anymore. If i'm not mistaken the last proper Megaman game to be made was in 2010, and since then there's been 4 games that they weren't able to get finished up for whatever reason.

Most people seem to think Capcom is simply neglecting the fans, but there might actually be a reason for the recent lack of content. If Capcom stood up and said the reasoning behind it all, then more fans would probably understand.

July 05, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
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Re: Imagine in BN4 was a good game.
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2015, 04:59:10 PM »
Quote from: "BiscuitSlash"
Most people seem to think Capcom is simply neglecting the fans, but there might actually be a reason for the recent lack of content. If Capcom stood up and said the reasoning behind it all, then more fans would probably understand.
It would've been smart to assume this anyway instead of adding more poor excuses to not be mature after 3+ years (I don't care what I missed.) I'll be looking forward to the day the truth comes out and the lying, paranoid "fans" stop.

July 06, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
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Re: A "new" Megaman game is coming.....
« Reply #52 on: July 06, 2015, 08:19:58 AM »
Actually, the problem is simple, Capcom doesnt want pay anything to publish any megaman game because they think It wont bring enough money, compared to MH or SF, maybe, maybe not, we never get a AAA" game for megaman....except if it's Street fighter X megaman lol.
Paranoid? I dont think so, just realist.... let's hope a billionaire arabic saoudian (fan of megaman) will pay capcom to make a new megaman game, at least for publishing....could be a good start...well i can joke' xD

But it's not the point of the topic.....  :)

Let go back to the topic, they have said, if it well sold, they could add more game...well, i dont know...

July 06, 2015, 12:12:24 PM
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Re: A "new" Megaman game is coming.....
« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2015, 12:12:24 PM »
Capcom is in deep shit about Mega Man. Inafune left them, his successor crashed and burned with Rockman X-Over and ALSO denying fans outside Japan from a localized version because he saw the negative reception of fans and decided just to cancel non-asian releases before quiting too.

All the merchandising they have been pushing, promoting old games, promoted that one fan game... It is all an attempt to put out a huge flame with a waterdropper, because this flame attack is what stands between them and a producer that could take the project. If fans wants Capcom to get a new Mega Man developed, they better put out the flames in their own fandom, which is the root of all problem.

July 07, 2015, 01:16:08 AM
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« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2015, 01:16:08 AM »
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If fans wants Capcom to get a new Mega Man developed, they better put out the flames in their own fandom, which is the root of all problem.
I'd suggest starting by having Stone change the unhelpful thread title.  :cool: But seriously, people. Get your shit together.

August 27, 2015, 04:22:13 AM
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Re: Megaman Legacy Collectin, collection game coming for sum
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2015, 04:22:13 AM »
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Quote from: "tsukiyomaru0"
If fans wants Capcom to get a new Mega Man developed, they better put out the flames in their own fandom, which is the root of all problem.
I'd suggest starting by having Stone change the unhelpful thread title.  :cool: But seriously, people. Get your shit together.

Is it good enough for you my pony? :>
Well i will try to keep positive anyway....maybe capcom doesnt have a true devroom for megaman and the others devroom (like MH ones and others) they to understand who is the megaman serie....nobody know, need to wait...

Maybe i could buy it to judge it better....im curious about the challenge..... <_<

EDIT:
You can get MMLC on PC, PS4, Xboxone now: http://www.rockman-corner.com/2015/08/m ... today.html

EDIT2: It seems, the game is from an emulator + some edited things, not a real engine who do LIKE en emulator:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaman/commen ... _emulator/
https://twitter.com/Prof9/status/636605206973804544
"MMLC contains the entire ROM files for Mega Man 1-6. They've been edited by hand to remove the Licensed by Nintendo."
Well, not a surprise, it's capcom.
But yeah, it doesnt change the fact it's just the ("totaly") 6 games anyways =P
It's certainly the reason why there isnt MM7 (snes) and MM8 (PS1).

August 27, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
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Re: Megaman Legacy Collectin, collection game coming for sum
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2015, 07:33:23 PM »
I will wait and see if they do actually release a physical copy, as I am not going to create a Steam account just to play an emulated version of the game which simply uses full screen mode as an excuse to say it's in "HD" (I already own the original NES (PAL) versions of 1, 2, 3 and 4, as well as the NTSC versions of 4, 5 and 6). Weren't they supposed to be remade from scratch using a retreaux engine ala MM9/10?

Also, why is the UI text in the Pac-Man/Galaxian style font of all things? Capcom never used that font in any of their games (I lie, it's actually used in Higemaru).

August 27, 2015, 09:16:39 PM
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Re: Megaman Legacy Collectin, collection game coming for sum
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2015, 09:16:39 PM »
The collection is essentially a fancy emulator sitting on top of a really simple GUI. Never was it promised or implied that Digital Eclipse would remake the games from scratch: in fact, the opposite was promised, to keep the games as close to their original release as possible. It's so close, it actually contains the ROMs of the six games.

It has been found though, that the emulator in question is very specific in how it works: it reads the source assets such as graphics, BGM, and level data from the ROMs...but the game code was recompiled into a new engine. You could technically replace the original ROMs with ROM hacks, and most of them will work.

August 28, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
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Re: Megaman Legacy Collectin, collection game coming for sum
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2015, 02:25:32 AM »
What was claimed was that the original 6 games were "rebuilt" from scratch. This development completely refutes that. The reason improvements were left out of the games were not due to the cries of purists, but due to the inherent laziness of this "Legacy Collection".

Another shameless cash grab from Capcom.

August 28, 2015, 08:02:46 PM
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Re: Megaman Legacy Collectin, collection game coming for sum
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2015, 08:02:46 PM »
It's high time for a proper HD fan remake then, if Capcom themselves can't/won't do it. Still, Legacy Collection is a cheap way to legally own those NES ROMs you've probably had for well over a decade. If you don't already own the cartridges themselves that is. :)

It's kind of sad that annoyances like the invincibility-ignoring instant death spikes in MM1 and the anti-rapid-fire enemy invincibility from MM5 will remain unchanged though. That said, at least two games were actually updated between regions, and I don't mean Rockman 2 becoming Mega Man 2 with an added easy mode...

In the PAL version of Mega Man 2, you can't glitch through the boss rooms to the Wily Stages using Item-1 as you can in the NTSC versions, at least to my knowledge (I've tried it too many times to count; Mega Man turns around when hit instead of falling into the door).

In the PAL version of Mega Man 3, the player 2 controller cheats (super jump/freeze animations) were removed for whatever reason. There was also an oversight with this version, in that the fight against Wily Machine 3 gives you a nice garbled background that constantly shakes up and down until defeated due to a timing error. Specifically, they didn't bother updating the code in any of the Mega Man games to work at 50Hz instead of the usual 60Hz, and the slower running causes problems with this stage - the same glitch also happens with the submarine in Blizzard Man's stage when you run Mega Man 6 on a PAL console (no choice since it was never physically released in the PAL region). Running the PAL version of MM3 in NTSC mode fixes the graphics glitches (at least in an emulator, as I don't have an NTSC console to test).